Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

[Purple Tiger]

I wear a mask if social distancing is impossible but there are places where wearing a mask is stupid, such as most situations outdoors. If you're paranoid about picking up C19 from me at a bar, restaurant or at Neyland Stadium, then I suggest you stay home. Personally I'm not going to live my life that way

On 104.5 in Nashville, the Vanderbilt head of epidemiology has been a regular guest on their lunch time shows. He said if you are running, hiking, cycling, boating or playing sports like golf or tennis, there is no need to wear a mask. I went hiking on Sunday in Edwin Warner Park. I saw only one person wearing a mask, and she was an elderly person.

 

[Velo Vol]

On 104.5 in Nashville, the Vanderbilt head of epidemiology has been a regular guest on their lunch time shows. He said if you are running, hiking, cycling, boating or playing sports like golf or tennis, there is no need to wear a mask. I went hiking on Sunday in Edwin Warner Park. I saw only one person wearing a mask, and she was an elderly person.

If you're trailing someone they could give you the virus.

 

[Velo Vol]

 

[Purple Tiger]

If you're trailing someone they could give you the virus.

I would imagine the Dr made that statement within the parameters of following social distancing rules.

 

[Volsfaninva917]

There's lots of sh!t in poop!

 

[allvol123]

Maybe were putting the swabs up the wrong hole.

 

[DC_Vol]

Assuming my assumptions are correct...I’m not sure how much this means because it is dependent upon testing.

It would be nice to see this same graphic for hospitalizations or deaths.

 

[DC_Vol]

This is really interesting.

Someone needs to develop the poop test ASAP.

 

[Velo Vol]

I would imagine the Dr made that statement within the parameters of following social distancing rules.

See visualization.

 

[Volsfaninva917]

 

[TennTradition]

It's inevitable we'll see an increase with the combination of more testing and less social distancing.

To me the more important metric is change in # of hospitalizations.

An increase in # of cases isn't bad news (actually good news) so long as it isn't followed by an equal increase in severe cases.

Both Michigan and Georgia saw their declines in deaths/day stop and either stabilize or begin climbing at a point that seems consistent with their increased mobility. But the important fact so far is there is NO acceleration. Does this mean long plateau? Or will it simmer here for a while and then take off?

 

[Volsfaninva917]

Assuming my assumptions are correct...I’m not sure how much this means because it is dependent upon testing.

It would be nice to see this same graphic for hospitalizations or deaths.

Deaths were at their lowest since March at 505 people and will probably be a lot lower today

 

[TennTradition]

Wow. Nice.

 

[Volsfaninva917]

 

[lawgator1]

Let's be honest. A large percentage of the people refusing to wear masks are doing so as a sign of their contempt for the scientists and professionals telling them they really need to wear them. Also a sign of solidarity with Trump on his minimizing it.

All you have to do is see that the people arguing against masks are the same people claiming that the numbers are inflated for political reasons.

 

[Volsfaninva917]

sorry can't help myself

 

[Volsfaninva917]

Let's be honest. A large percentage of the people refusing to wear masks are doing so as a sign of their contempt for the scientists and professionals telling them they really need to wear them. Also a sign of solidarity with Trump on his minimizing it.

All you have to do is see that the people arguing against masks are the same people claiming that the numbers are inflated for political reasons.

Just curious, why should we trust a bunch of scientists and professionals who have been wrong about everything to date. Why should we believe them?

 

[DC_Vol]

Let's be honest. A large percentage of the people refusing to wear masks are doing so as a sign of their contempt for the scientists and professionals telling them they really need to wear them. Also a sign of solidarity with Trump on his minimizing it.

All you have to do is see that the people arguing against masks are the same people claiming that the numbers are inflated for political reasons.

You are the VN king of assigning motives to people then passing judgment on the basis of your assignment.

Your political foes always have bad intent while you seem to wash clean any bad action of Democrats with good intentions.

It’s ridiculous.

 

[Velo Vol]

This is really interesting.

Someone needs to develop the poop test ASAP.

I have no idea how much there is to this but if it actually works it would be like sampling hundreds? of people at once.

 

[Rifleman]

It's inevitable we'll see an increase with the combination of more testing and less social distancing.

To me the more important metric is change in # of hospitalizations.

An increase in # of cases isn't bad news (actually good news) so long as it isn't followed by an equal increase in severe cases.

I somewhat agree. We always have to wait to see the data since it lags in a number of ways, and only then (optimally) make decisions accordingly. Hospitalization increases and death increases are going to lag daily case increases, so we can't pair those pieces of data in real time.

And, since the data is regionally specific, decisions need to be made in different places depending upon local circumstances instead of a national political conversation. Making large-scale decisions months in advance isn't science-driven, but neither is chastising a locality that is becoming a hot spot for not being as open as other areas.

My point is to advise calmness, for myself as much as anyone, because we are always going to have a corresponding B.S. spike which dwarfs any slight uptick in the data and the people spreading B.S. really don't need extra help.

 

[DC_Vol]

I have no idea how much there is to this but if it actually works it would be like sampling hundreds? of people at once.

If it’s out of the local sewer then yes. Assuming the predictor is accurate,
one could test his dueces and potentially start treatment 1-2 weeks in advance. if there were an at home poop test.

It’s the most interesting thing I’ve seen on this in weeks. Thanks for sharing.

 

[volbeast33]

Let's be honest. A large percentage of the people refusing to wear masks are doing so as a sign of their contempt for the scientists and professionals telling them they really need to wear them. Also a sign of solidarity with Trump on his minimizing it.

All you have to do is see that the people arguing against masks are the same people claiming that the numbers are inflated for political reasons.

They are not wearing them bc they don’t feel they need too

 

[0nelilreb]

Let's be honest. A large percentage of the people refusing to wear masks are doing so as a sign of their contempt for the scientists and professionals telling them they really need to wear them. Also a sign of solidarity with Trump on his minimizing it.

All you have to do is see that the people arguing against masks are the same people claiming that the numbers are inflated for political reasons.

Trump solidarity in Norfolk ? All these liberals not wearing masks around here would laugh in your face , maybe even cough on you .

 

[kiddiedoc]

Let's be honest. A large percentage of the people refusing to wear masks are doing so as a sign of their contempt for the scientists and professionals telling them they really need to wear them. Also a sign of solidarity with Trump on his minimizing it.

All you have to do is see that the people arguing against masks are the same people claiming that the numbers are inflated for political reasons.

While we are being honest, isn't it interesting that "scientists and professionals" (myself included) have explained for many years that cloth masks are ineffective at blocking viral transmission and acquisition? And, before you start going on about droplet spread, aerosolized droplets are still smaller than the filtration capabilities of cloth and similar masks by a factor of 10-40x.

Golly, if only we had thought of wearing bandanas during flu season every year. Surely we've cost 100s of thousands of American lives!

Truth is: there is NO scientific evidence that these goofy face coverings help at all, and there is legitimate concern that they may spread germs through hand contact and have other negative effects on the wearer through CO2 retention, increased viral concentration in the vapor area inside the mask, etc.

 

[DC_Vol]

Think where all we might be able to go with this?

Want to get into Neyland for the Bama game this year? Forget temp checks...by that time it is too late. Go take a dump outside 21 and let the staff examine and test. If the stick turns brown, you will not be allowed in.