Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

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#91,726
hog88 said:
My nephews just started back to school a week or two ago and both have colds now. Elementary schools are petri dishes full of germs and viruses and keeping kids home is not helping them build immunity.
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Exactly. Schools are petri dishes and C19 is not exempted from that. I am not suggesting schools close but I can't say that outbreaks don't happen in schools either. They do
 
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Sea Ray said:
Exactly. Schools are petri dishes and C19 is not exempted from that. I am not suggesting schools close but I can't say that outbreaks don't happen in schools either. They do
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As others have mentioned, what are the actual numbers? Going from zero cases to 1 is a 100% increase so we would need the hard numbers before it warrants concern.
 
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ButchPlz said:
Do you even see the number of "cases" in each of these "outbreaks"?

You ought to take your own advice. Single digit case numbers in a day is hardly an outbreak, especially if- like everywhere else- these kids have next to zero symptoms.

Stop the fear porn.
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"Outbreaks do happen in schools". Do you consider that comment to be fear porn? I would say that it's factual. That's all I'm saying here.
 
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hog88 said:
As others have mentioned, what are the actual numbers? Going from zero cases to 1 is a 100% increase so we would need the hard numbers before it warrants concern.
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Many of the schools listed in the report have single digit "outbreaks" counting teachers and students. A few of them have double digit numbers but are less than 20.

20 at my son's HS would be less than 1% of the student and faculty population.
 
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Sea Ray said:
"Outbreaks do happen in schools". Do you consider that comment to be fear porn? I would say that it's factual. That's all I'm saying here.
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Been in school all year and have had only 1 "outbreak". I use quotations because we were out due to contact tracing and not the virus.
 
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hog88 said:
My nephews just started back to school a week or two ago and both have colds now. Elementary schools are petri dishes full of germs and viruses and keeping kids home is not helping them build immunity.
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Same here. I have nephews and nieces in GA and VA.

Both recently started back and each family had a kid come down with a fever in the first week. Talk about freaking out. Lol. What did you think was going to happen when you turned your family into native Americans pre European discovery.

On the other hand, my wife and I had covid at the same time back in December. We stayed home but we did not keep separated from our kids, they were out of school for Christmas break though. None of our kids showed any signs of getting it from us. So either they had already had it (because they have been in school) and so we could not give it to them. Or we did give it to them and it never caused them any harm.
 
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Sea Ray said:
"Outbreaks do happen in schools". Do you consider that comment to be fear porn? I would say that it's factual. That's all I'm saying here.
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It's not factual without defining what an "outbreak" consists of. Less than 2 cases per school in my county got blown up as an outbreak. It was ridiculous fear porn
 
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Sea Ray said:
"Outbreaks do happen in schools". Do you consider that comment to be fear porn? I would say that it's factual. That's all I'm saying here.
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Yes, it is fear porn.

What is an outbreak? Is one case an outbreak? Sane people wouldn't call it an outbreak. Sane people wouldn't call single digit cases in schools an outbreak either.
 
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ButchPlz said:
Yes, it is fear porn.

What is an outbreak? Is one case an outbreak? Sane people wouldn't call it an outbreak. Sane people wouldn't call single digit cases in schools an outbreak either.
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The Mich site clearly defines outbreak:

Two or more* laboratory-confirmed† COVID-19 cases among students or staff with onsets‡ within a 14-day period, who are epidemiologically linked§ , do not share a household**, and were not identified as close contacts†† of each other in another setting during standard case investigation or contact tracing

Confirmed and probable secondary cases among students or staff in the educational setting should be classified as outbreak-associated. Individual cases outside of the educational setting that resulted from secondary transmission from an outbreak-associated case (e.g., a family member of a student or staff) should not be included in the outbreak case count.
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https://preparedness.cste.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Educational-Outbreak-Definition.pdf
 
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allvol123 said:
I will say it again, I am amazed at Florida. In a good way.

I will put TN near the top of rankings in terms of not being total dumbasses with the way covid is handled by their citizens. That said, Florida is at another level. Being down here on vacation, it is like no one gives a damn(yay!). There are no decals on storefront windows even suggesting masks are needed. The restaurants are packed.

Just awesome. I travel in the southeast alot on the weekends, so have various points of reference. NC, KY, and GA kind of blow. Especially NC.
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Catoosa County GA here, everything's been wide open since end of summer including schools.
 
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Sea Ray said:
Here's what should be done:

1) Accept that outbreaks can and do happen in schools
2) Keep schools open
3) Send sick kids home and keep them home until medically cleared

That's a hell of a lot of outbreaks in schools. Of course these kids likely aren't going to the hospital or dropping dead because they're kids. But don't come in here and tell me outbreaks don't happen in school. 53 different schools reporting outbreaks in one day can't be brushed off as nothing
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Does it define what an outbreak is? ETA: Two people constitutes an outbreak. Yikes.
And from what I've read and seen personally transmission at school is primarily teacher-teacher and teacher-student. Student-student is very rare if happening at all.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
Does it define what an outbreak is? ETA: Two people constitutes an outbreak. Yikes.
And from what I've read and seen personally transmission at school is primarily teacher-teacher and teacher-student. Student-student is very rare if happening at all.
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Yeah, I posted the exact definition of an outbreak in post 91,735. All we can ask of gov't is that they define for us what their terms mean and they did that.

I am no fan of their Governor, "Half-Whit" and would like to see her gone
 
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#91,741
DancingOutlaw said:
Does it define what an outbreak is? ETA: Two people constitutes an outbreak. Yikes.
And from what I've read and seen personally transmission at school is primarily teacher-teacher and teacher-student. Student-student is very rare if happening at all.
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You are correct.

German study shows low coronavirus infection rate in schools

Some Schools Have Been Open for Months. Here’s What They Learned. — The Wall Street Journal

“They also have learned that teachers, not their students, are likely the primary transmitters of the virus in grade schools.”
 
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#91,742
This lady should probably move her restaurant to California.

"$50 if I have to explain why masks are mandatory and $75 if I have to hear why you disagree,” Kat LaCombe said."

 
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CagleMtnVol said:
This lady should probably move her restaurant to California.

"$50 if I have to explain why masks are mandatory and $75 if I have to hear why you disagree,” Kat LaCombe said."

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Wow, unreal. I may stop by this place and give an update. I have to travel to Denton, TX several times a year. This place is about 4 miles from my usual hotel.
 
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#91,744
CagleMtnVol said:
This lady should probably move her restaurant to California.

"$50 if I have to explain why masks are mandatory and $75 if I have to hear why you disagree,” Kat LaCombe said."

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So no. This was over in Denton about 30 minutes from me. It was done tongue in cheek. The restaurant does still require masks on entry but once seated people take them off. And the restaurant has the option to levy that requirement on their patrons.

In this case I think it’s much swirl over nothing. I didn’t read the link but there aren’t any fines. They can’t enforce that anyway.
 
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I’m flying out to Rhode Island and Massachusetts tonight for work, those states require I have a negative test result. I have the proof of a negative test with me and yet BNA and Southwest require I wear a mask. Can any of you mask loving tyranny loving dems explain what sense this makes?
 
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#91,749
GSD82 said:
I’m flying out to Rhode Island and Massachusetts tonight for work, those states require I have a negative test result. I have the proof of a negative test with me and yet BNA and Southwest require I wear a mask. Can any of you mask loving tyranny loving dems explain what sense this makes?
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Just ignore it
 
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