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#100,827
GAVol said:
Some of the concern may be well founded. What is concerning is the complete lack of rational thought being put into some of these mandates. I've been in a couple of states and a territory in the past few weeks where people are flat out nutty.
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I agree with you. I've seen ample nuttiness on both ends of the spectrum.
 
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#100,828
LouderVol said:
I got a hint for you. They arent actually concerned about us. They are pissed we arent following their orders. It's why they focus on unvaxxed, not the non-immune.
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I've got a return hint for you. Many are actually concerned about us, especially on my local lever.
 
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#100,829
So Luther, how has your all expenses paid vacation on the taxpayers back been? Are you holding out for better mask mandates before you do your job that you're paid to do?
 
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#100,830
VolStrom said:
So Luther, how has your all expenses paid vacation on the taxpayers back been? Are you holding out for better mask mandates before you do your job that you're paid to do?
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I had a couple of great vacations and I'm all for a return to normal with masks being optional, but that is being complicated by the ridiculous number of anti-vaxxers.
 
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#100,831
luthervol said:
I've got a return hint for you. Many are actually concerned about us, especially on my local lever.
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I would say the likelihood of someone local to you caring about you is far more likely than someone in Washington DC.

That is why it is far better to have a decentralized system of govt, where people locally come together and are able to make decisions within their region for their own best interests. These one size fits all solutions that come from a far away centralized govt are showing to be problematic...
 
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AshG said:
Just heard from one of my specialists at UT Med who helped save my life in 2013. They've been told by hospital admin to "hold on to their asses" as their rate of fill in the ICU and Covid ICU are increasing noticeably.

This doctor also said that none of the dialysis patients who received the vaccine are producing antibodies. Their weakened immune systems combined with the dialysis treatmemts prevented their bodies from reacting to the vaccine and producing antibodies.
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The CDC has already said immunocompromised people who are vaccinated are basically unprotected. That's encouraging.
 
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#100,835
So the CDC is pushing for mask mandates over a single scenario in Cape Cod where nobody died and there were only 7 hospitalizations out of 882 people infected where 74% of the folks were vaccinated.

This is an incredibly weak case for making vaccinated people wear masks.
 
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Matt2496 said:
So the CDC is pushing for mask mandates over a single scenario in Cape Cod where nobody died and there were only 7 hospitalizations out of 882 people infected where 74% of the folks were vaccinated.

So 882-(882x.74) is 229 so all 7 of the hospitalizations could have easily been unvaccinated.

This is an incredibly weak case for making vaccinated people wear masks.
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4/7 hospitalized were fully vaxed. Or 57% whichever you prefer
 
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#100,845
VolStrom said:
Well who are you worried about then? The children or the coworkers that refuse to get vaccinated?
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The community at large.
I would hate to see schools and businesses being shut down again....not to mention unnecessary death and suffering.
 
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#100,847
Bottom line...kids don't spread the disease and over 73% of adults have been vaccinated in the US with 40-50 million already having immunity from COVID infection...there aren't enough unvaccinated adults to account for the rise in Delta cases imo...the vaccines don't work as well as projected but they can't say that then unvaccinated won't bother and vaccinated might be reluctant to get the 3rd one
 
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Who believes the CDC? The vaccine manufacturers have stated the entire time -Vaccines will reduce the severity an exposure by recognizing CoVid, and starting the body's battle quicker. It is not nor, from the pharmaceutical companies, ever be hailed as a magical shield that will never be penetrated by the virus. That's a fantasy that Fauci and the CDC have permitted to be propagated.
The pharms are still in trial with the 30K groups getting data about the vaccine but if I understand correctly The CDC is vetting the data from those not in the study from doctors before it goes back to the drug companies. Perhaps a doctor on the board can confirm they do not send "anomalies" directly to the vaccine manufacturer.
 
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VolnJC said:
Bottom line...kids don't spread the disease and over 73% of adults have been vaccinated in the US with 40-50 million already having immunity from COVID infection...there aren't enough unvaccinated adults to account for the rise in Delta cases imo...the vaccines don't work as well as projected but they can't say that then unvaccinated won't bother and vaccinated might be reluctant to get the 3rd one
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Deaths are flat, and at a very low rate. We just came out of a very heavily traveled holiday, our own government is moving illegal and untested migrants all over the country, why wouldn't we expect the number of cases to go up. I know a year ago most of the ICU beds were full (not all) of Covid but typically what percentage of beds are full at this time of year anyway? I know years ago when I worked in a hospital, the ICU had high capacity from a wide range of maladies.
 
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