Let's talk about Justin Worley

[jeffmcflurry27]

Then he should have said .."Coach I will play...but I am going to the ground anytime anybody gets near me" That is a *itch move. I hated Jamal Lewis for doing it, and I despise Hunter for doing it. If you don't want to give your all, then go the hell on.

He was a twenty year old kid, with a newborn baby and most likely a number of other people counting on him to get that paycheck. Some tools, such as yourself, just lack the mental capacity to understand what that may be like. He played hard and it was evident. Yes it was obvious that he played scared from time to time, but it would also be daft to say that you wouldn't have as well.

It's still just football pal, so grow up. It's still just a game and these are kids that you are vicariously living through.

 

[Vol865]

Posted via VolNation Mobileyeah and Tyler lit up everyone else. All I remember is everyone always complaining about Bray only doing well against bad competition. So you're saying Worley should have at least as good of numbers as Bray. I think our offense will be just fine if we get that kind of production out of Worley.

No I'm saying he isn't proven......just because he threw a few safe passes everyone wants to annoint him as the next Peyton Manning

 

[Vol865]

75% Justin Hunter>100% any other of our WR









(Besides CP)





And btw.....he was protecting his future, and had a child to provide for, are you crazy? In that instance f$&k the team....I'm goin get mine.

If I was the coach u would've had to find a way to do that from the bench

 

[1972 Grad]

I get it.....he was 9 of 11 but for what? Like 50 yards.
And ur going to talk about 1 of 11 throws.....Please do me a favor and go back and watch and tell me what percentage of plays were thrown to a route over 5-6 yds? Then do the same for bray.Matt Simms could do that dink and dunk BS. You can't say someone played better when they called completely different plays for them

I can say one guy played better than another if he did the job that he was asked to do, and the other guy didn't.

 

[Vol865]

I can say one guy played better than another if he did the job that he was asked to do, and the other guy didn't.

But one guys job was to drive around the block and the others was to drive across country.....not a fair comparison

 

[PeytonBerry]

I think Worley is a good person, leader, etc. Simply put, he just hasn’t passed my eyeball test (I know, it’s JMO). When Bray was a freshman/sophomore, you could at least see potential in mop up duty (2010 Georgia, South Carolina come to mind). Regarding potential I’ve yet to see it from Worley in a good bit of playing time and a couple spring games. What I have seen from him reminded me of Matt Simms. Plenty of strength, but no touch. Hangs on to the ball too long, indecisive, stares down receivers. To me, the evidence suggests Worley has a low ceiling. For the record, I’m happy to not consider his career 1/5 td-int ratio if we can also discount his high school accolades. I am still confused why his own state schools (USC and Clemson) did not recruit him.

I will agree however we don’t have enough information on Dobbs, but I would not be surprised if becomes our QB solely based on his tape I’ve watched and the praise he is currently getting from the staff. I don’t know that he is the best QB, but if he gives us the best chance to win, he should start. His being a freshman really shouldn’t be a factor IMO. Manning, Clausen, Ainge, and Bray all started as freshman, and many would argue Clausen and Bray should have been starting from game 1 their freshman year.

Regardless of who starts, I’m going to support my QB and my team no matter what. These are just my thoughts. These are all good kids and we need to have their backs.

 

[1972 Grad]

But one guys job was to drive around the block and the others was to drive across country.....not a fair comparison

First of all, I would never try to argue that Worley can make some of the throws that Bray can. I don't know if he will be a better or worse qb than Bray, because there is a lot that goes into making a good qb.

A good qb needs instincts and intuition. He needs to be courageous and intensely competitive. He needs to have the other players believe in him. If he is courageous and intensely competitive, the other players will recognize that and follow him.

He needs to have accuracy, touch, and timing . He needs to fully understand a system, and the receivers in the system. He needs to be able to throw screens, timed short passes, medium range , and down the field. His touch will enable him to throw an easily catchable ball.

A quick release is an asset, as is the ability to read a defense. He needs mobility and the ability to sense and elude a pass rush. He needs the ability to play while injured and to avoid getting rattled. He also needs the ability to make something happen when the game is in a crucial stage when a score is needed to pull out a win .

For these reasons, I am not able to write off Worley , or proclaim a starter for next season. I don't know what the coaches know. This also explains to me why Bray was not drafted. He is not a complete quarterback as of right now. There is a lot more involved in the making of a great quarterback than making a few fancy throws.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

He was a twenty year old kid, with a newborn baby and most likely a number of other people counting on him to get that paycheck. Some tools, such as yourself, just lack the mental capacity to understand what that may be like. He played hard and it was evident. Yes it was obvious that he played scared from time to time, but it would also be daft to say that you wouldn't have as well.

It's still just football pal, so grow up. It's still just a game and these are kids that you are vicariously living through.

:hi:

 

[darkgable]

He was a twenty year old kid, with a newborn baby and most likely a number of other people counting on him to get that paycheck. Some tools, such as yourself, just lack the mental capacity to understand what that may be like. He played hard and it was evident. Yes it was obvious that he played scared from time to time, but it would also be daft to say that you wouldn't have as well.

It's still just football pal, so grow up. It's still just a game and these are kids that you are vicariously living through.

You may want to repeat the vicariously living through part. I don't think they heard or comprehended what that meant. I love that last sentence. No homo.

 

[utvolpj]

He was a twenty year old kid, with a newborn baby and most likely a number of other people counting on him to get that paycheck. Some tools, such as yourself, just lack the mental capacity to understand what that may be like. He played hard and it was evident. Yes it was obvious that he played scared from time to time, but it would also be daft to say that you wouldn't have as well.

It's still just football pal, so grow up. It's still just a game and these are kids that you are vicariously living through.

what you don't seem to understand is these players must sacrifice all future success in life for the good of the UT program and our enjoyment. No one cares whether they end up broke and/or hobbled for life as long as they gave their all for UT football on Saturdays.

why is this so hard to understand? :dunno:

 

[darkgable]

I think Worley is a good person, leader, etc. Simply put, he just hasn’t passed my eyeball test (I know, it’s JMO). When Bray was a freshman/sophomore, you could at least see potential in mop up duty (2010 Georgia, South Carolina come to mind). Regarding potential I’ve yet to see it from Worley in a good bit of playing time and a couple spring games. What I have seen from him reminded me of Matt Simms. Plenty of strength, but no touch. Hangs on to the ball too long, indecisive, stares down receivers. To me, the evidence suggests Worley has a low ceiling. For the record, I’m happy to not consider his career 1/5 td-int ratio if we can also discount his high school accolades. I am still confused why his own state schools (USC and Clemson) did not recruit him.

I will agree however we don’t have enough information on Dobbs, but I would not be surprised if becomes our QB solely based on his tape I’ve watched and the praise he is currently getting from the staff. I don’t know that he is the best QB, but if he gives us the best chance to win, he should start. His being a freshman really shouldn’t be a factor IMO. Manning, Clausen, Ainge, and Bray all started as freshman, and many would argue Clausen and Bray should have been starting from game 1 their freshman year.

Regardless of who starts, I’m going to support my QB and my team no matter what. These are just my thoughts. These are all good kids and we need to have their backs.

You can say the same about Worley's high school tape. He looks just as good. College is not the same game. It never has been and never will be. People are wanting a true freshman to run this offense in the SEC. Think about that. A true freshman to play Florida, the cocks, the Bulldogs, and Bama. Really? Yeah lets throw this kid in the deep end of the pool first than teach him how to swim. That's good coaching. Edit: Oregon.

 

[darkgable]

Screw you Pope Pius. I was stating my opinion on a player who obviously laid down. I am sick of you ambiguous jackholes that never call out anybody for not giving their best. You don't know me, and you don't know anything about what I would do. I know what I would do. I would either cut bait, and move on, or play my a$$ off. :finger3: P.S. I am not going to respond to anything else and continue to derail this thread.

And that's why the NFL hasn't come calling Mr. Vicarious.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

And that's why the NFL hasn't come calling Mr. Vicarious.

:hi:

 

[k-town_king]

Worley is a place holder until someone with talent is ready. If he starts at all that is.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

what you don't seem to understand is these players must sacrifice all future success in life for the good of the UT program and our enjoyment. No one cares whether they end up broke and/or hobbled for life as long as they gave their all for UT football on Saturdays.

why is this so hard to understand? :dunno:

:hi:

 

[Vol865]

First of all, I would never try to argue that Worley can make some of the throws that Bray can. I don't know if he will be a better or worse qb than Bray, because there is a lot that goes into making a good qb.

A good qb needs instincts and intuition. He needs to be courageous and intensely competitive. He needs to have the other players believe in him. If he is courageous and intensely competitive, the other players will recognize that and follow him.

He needs to have accuracy, touch, and timing . He needs to fully understand a system, and the receivers in the system. He needs to be able to throw screens, timed short passes, medium range , and down the field. His touch will enable him to throw an easily catchable ball.

A quick release is an asset, as is the ability to read a defense. He needs mobility and the ability to sense and elude a pass rush. He needs the ability to play while injured and to avoid getting rattled. He also needs the ability to make something happen when the game is in a crucial stage when a score is needed to pull out a win .

For these reasons, I am not able to write off Worley , or proclaim a starter for next season. I don't know what the coaches know. This also explains to me why Bray was not drafted. He is not a complete quarterback as of right now. There is a lot more involved in the making of a great quarterback than making a few fancy throws.

I can agree with this....I'm not saying he will be bad....I'm just saying that based off the PT I saw I didn't see anything special. I hope he proves me wrong.
And as far as his release, I hope he's fixed that because he winds up like tebow did. It makes our throws less accurate and ur vulnerable to strip sacks

 

[utvolpj]

This is football we are talking about right? Anybody that ever steps on the field can end up broke, or hobbled for life. Maybe he should have stuck with track and field. I don't want to see anybody injured for life either, but I also don't want to see selfish, halfhearted football out of guys who are supposed to be our best players.

it's simply football to you but it's someone else's career and livelihood

he's selfish for wanting to further his career and make money but you're not by wanting him to possibly give up millions of dollars simply for your enjoyment? How do you judge who is or is not giving their all? Why are you able to judge that?

I don't think he half-assed it like you're claiming but I wouldn't blame him if he did. The risk simply isn't worth it for some players

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

it's simply football to you but it's someone else's career and livelihood

he's selfish for wanting to further his career and make money but you're not by wanting him to possibly give up millions of dollars simply for your enjoyment? How do you judge who is or is not giving their all? Why are you able to judge that?

I don't think he half-assed it like you're claiming but I wouldn't blame him if he did. The risk simply isn't worth it for some players

:hi:

 

[utvolpj]

Nobody ever does anything wrong do they pj? I am a a$$ for wanting guys who play for the Vols to actually do what the sign they slap on gameday says?

of course people do things wrong but this isn't even close to one of them. Again, how are you able to so accurately judge when a player is dogging it?

And it is not just for my enjoyment.

then what is it for?

 

[TennMan101]

Jones missed 3 games in the middle of the season with an injury.. sure seems like there would have been plenty of opportunities for Hunter and / or DaRick Rogers to get more catches than what they got, had they known the offense.

Pease note: you keep referencing Zach Rogers. I was not talking about Zach but Da'Rick. Neither of those 2 (daRick or Justin) had issues getting throws to them once they learned more routes.

+1 It seems to me that beef is just looking for an argument.

 

[darkgable]

This is football we are talking about right? Anybody that ever steps on the field can end up broke, or hobbled for life. Maybe he should have stuck with track and field. I don't want to see anybody injured for life either, but I also don't want to see selfish, halfhearted football out of guys who are supposed to be our best players.

You have now determined who is half hearted and who is deserving of a Vol card. Interesting. Justin Hunter did not make or break the season. You go on to call the brotha selfish. Dude you are incredibly butt hurt. I mean your butt must really hurt OR you are Mr.Vicarious OR a little bit of both. The 2013 season has come and gone I appreciate Hunter and all the other former Vols who gave their all for this team so that I could sit on the couch or in the stands and cheer them on. I also appreciate the fact that they had the courage to put up with the coaching carousel they had to endure. Now some will be earning a living in the NFL or the private sector and supporting themselves and families. To question their heart is kind of sad and petty on a jealous and pathetic level.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

of course people do things wrong but this isn't even close to one of them. Again, how are you able to so accurately judge when a player is dogging it?



then what is it for?

:hi:

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

You have now determined who is half hearted and who is deserving of a Vol card. Interesting. Justin Hunter did not make or break the season. You go on to call the brotha selfish. Dude you are incredibly butt hurt. I mean your butt must really hurt OR you are Mr.Vicarious OR a little bit of both. The 2013 season has come and gone I appreciate Hunter and all the other former Vols who gave their all for this team so that I could sit on the couch or in the stands and cheer them on. I also appreciate the fact that they had the courage to put up with the coaching carousel they had to endure. Now some will be earning a living in the NFL or the private sector and supporting themselves and families. To question their heart is kind of sad and petty on a jealous and pathetic level.

:hi:

 

[darkgable]

Ok then Mr. Obtuse.

That would be your posts.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

:hi: