Lol hopson

#102
#102
altidore17 said:
But I thought Bruce was a master recruiter? Lol that's actually a little harsh, but it would be our luck to land the guy in the middle of the most talented young players in the league right now.
Click to expand...
He was a good recruiter, not a master. I think his problems were with development. Its not like every other program didnt want most the guys on our roster, we just have done nothing with them.
 
#105
#105
WiseOlVol said:
It is inexcusable that this young man didn't have intelligent, honest advisors.

If you don't have a guarantee to go early, you stay another year.

It's not complicated. And the cost of a mistake this big is, well, 10+ years of a young man's life...and he has to find something else to do.

Can we blame Mike Hamilton for this?
Click to expand...

I'm not sure what makes some of you think that Hopson's draft position would have improved given the strength if next year's draft. He wasn't going to make it in the league immediately either way. We've watched him for years, we know that. He'll go make money in Europe now, and take advantage of the playing years he has left.
Posted via VolNation Mobile
 
#106
#106
GAVol said:
I agree it's classless to trash him but the idea that a guy not being drafted is his school's fault is ridiculous.
Click to expand...

So Bruce's inability to develop players over time had nothing to do with it? Tyler, Jajuan, Chris, JP, Bobby, and Wayne disagree.
 
#107
#107
Chris4Vols22 said:
So Bruce's inability to develop players over time had nothing to do with it? Tyler, Jajuan, Chris, JP, Bobby, and Wayne disagree.
Click to expand...


A college coach's job is to win games and graduate players. It's not to develop an NBA player. Look at the last several drafts and see how many players played college ball for 4 years and "developed" into a pro player during that time.
 
#108
#108
The_Orange_Pearl said:
Sometimes I hate our fans.

What exactly does insulting your own players accomplish? The only one I've ever understood is Crompton.

Scotty Hopson hahaha! One of 15 Tennessee players to ever make it the Elite 8 hahaha! He was one of the starters hahaha! That guy sucks hahaha! Hilarious...

He didn't live up to the hype but he didn't exactly suck either.

Enjoy your cheap ghetto 40.
Click to expand...

agreed
 
#110
#110
State of the Vols said:
This string is yet one more example that "VFL" is a one-way deal. It is a meaningless phrase when we consistently denigrate anyone who does not do exactly what we "fans" want them to do. Sad.

Wish you well, Scotty - thanks for your efforts on behalf of UT - I have some fond memories of you and I hope you keep some fond memories of your time in Knoxville. GBO
Click to expand...

yup
 
#112
#112
Top undrafted free agents
NBA Draft: Scotty Hopson, Demetri McCamey lead top undrafted free agents - ESPN

Scotty Hopson - Tennessee
He's likely an NBA player from the neck down, but that's just not enough to get drafted. However, as a free agent, teams will be willing to bring him in and see how he handles himself as a man and as a pro. He'd have had 30 summer league offers if there was a summer league to play in, which there likely will be next July. Until then, behaving normally and playing well should be his plan, either in the NBDL or Europe.
Click to expand...
 
#113
#113
pl3 said:
A college coach's job is to win games and graduate players. It's not to develop an NBA player. Look at the last several drafts and see how many players played college ball for 4 years and "developed" into a pro player during that time.
Click to expand...

It's not a coach's job to improve their players' games? I don't follow.
 
#114
#114
I don't really understand kicking the kid when he's down.

He was a solid basketball player for us that did some good things. He didn't live up to the hype, but that's partly the hype's fault.

And the truth is, Scotty IS an NBA player--he's just going to have to settle for being a workmanlike player rather than a go-to guy. Rebound, play defense, hit open shots, pass the ball.

Dunno if he's figured that out yet. If he does, he'll make a team. If not, then he'll flit around the world playing international ball.

But again, I don't at ALL get kicking him while he's down. By all accounts he's a good student and a good person, and has never had any attitude or behavior problems off the court.
 
#115
#115
Chris4Vols22 said:
It's not a coach's job to improve their players' games? I don't follow.
Click to expand...

Does a coach win games without players getting better? Not consistently. I'll repeat, a college coach's job is to win games and graduate players. It's not to develop NBA players. If you think otherwise, you're entitled, but you're wrong. The 346 D1 head coaches and their athletic departments agree with me.
 
#116
#116
pl3 said:
Does a coach win games without players getting better? Not consistently. I'll repeat, a college coach's job is to win games and graduate players. It's not to develop NBA players. If you think otherwise, you're entitled, but you're wrong. The 346 D1 head coaches and their athletic departments agree with me.
Click to expand...

I'm sure John Calipari got a raise and an extension because of all those seniors he graduated...
 
#117
#117
pl3 said:
Does a coach win games without players getting better? Not consistently. I'll repeat, a college coach's job is to win games and graduate players. It's not to develop NBA players. If you think otherwise, you're entitled, but you're wrong. The 346 D1 head coaches and their athletic departments agree with me.
Click to expand...

I giggled.
 
#120
#120
pl3 said:
No. He got an extension because he is winning games.
Posted via VolNation Mobile
Click to expand...

And that's the key.

Graduating players doesn't really matter as long as you stay out of APR trouble. It's more about making sure the players you have stay in good academic standing.

At the same time, point guards don't go to Kentucky to win. They go there because Cal's system is a really good springboard to the NBA.
 
#121
#121
VKAman said:
And that's the key.

Graduating players doesn't really matter as long as you stay out of APR trouble. It's more about making sure the players you have stay in good academic standing.

At the same time, point guards don't go to Kentucky to win. They go there because Cal's system is a really good springboard to the NBA.
Click to expand...

You are talking about one coach running a NBA delepmental team, not the norm. Less than 1% of d1 players get drafted each year and many of those never make it.
Posted via VolNation Mobile
 
#122
#122
pl3 said:
You are talking about one coach running a NBA delepmental team, not the norm. Less than 1% of d1 players get drafted each year and many of those never make it.
Posted via VolNation Mobile
Click to expand...

I'm talking about the reality. A coach's job is to win, but developing NBA players is what attracts top recruits. Besides, as a high school recruit Hopson was ranked with that 1%.
 
#124
#124
pl3 said:
You are talking about one coach running a NBA delepmental team, not the norm. Less than 1% of d1 players get drafted each year and many of those never make it.
Posted via VolNation Mobile
Click to expand...

Look at where Hopson was ranked coming out of high school and take a glance at the names above and below him. Virtually all of them are in the NBA.
 
#125
#125
GBO18 said:
That you really believe what your saying.
Click to expand...


Explain to me what I said that is wrong and what molded your own definition: that a college coach's job is to develop NBA players. Go ask a coach and see what he tells you. Coach K, Knight, Self, Byrd, Stallings, Williams, and 100's of others. Tell me again that Coach K's job is to develop Dukies into nba players. Some of you guys come up with your own definitions, which is fine, but you are wrong.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top