Looking like KJH is the play

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madtownvol said:
Sometimes reality bites.

Let's consider some "rumored" names:

Gail G. bombed at Texas and subsequently resigned after a season as an assistant coach in the WNBA for reasons of "mental exhaustion'; She had success at Duke but her time seems to have past; bringing a coach coming off the heels of failure and mental exhaustion makes no sense. The LVs need an energizer bunny coach who brings excitement and passion in the manner of Dawn Staley (or heck Bruce Pearl at Auburn).

Carolyn Peck won an NC at Purdue with a team of All-Americans she inherited, but definitely deserves credit for 2 great seasons (an elite 8 and an NC); She then jumped to the WNBA where she had a losing record over 3 seasons. She took over at Florida and had an overall losing record. She was fired during her fifth season 2006–07 where the Gators had a 14-game losing streak and finished 9–22. Is Peck really the "answer"?

We can go down the list of established names and many don't look so great on closer inspection

As with Gail G. Peck Walz, and all the other wish list names, other than the rumor mills which have been particularly unreliable (insiders confirm Wes Moore to be named LV coach), no really knows who is actually interested in the job.

Fulmer may be having to work with a less than ideal set of options because none of the clear-cut star coaches want to move. Walz , Freese, and I guess we can add Wes Moore seemed like the only ones who might have even persuadable so it really was . Moore said no; who knows about the other two.

And superstar coaches like Mulkey and McGraw are not going to leave their programs any more than Pat Summitt would have left the LVs.

All the pie-in-the-sky why don't we hire Kara Lawson or Geno or Vic Schaefer has just raised ridiculous false expectations such that who ever Phil does hire, there will be posters who rail "see he would not pay the money for Walz" conveniently ignoring the fact that Walz may have never been a viable option.

If it turns out KHJ is the one, well, yeah I would have liked to seen a much better credentialed coach and I think it is high time to move outside the family for new ideas. But realistically, that would likely mean betting on assistant coach who would be learning on the job as the HC of the LVs.
Suddenly, Harper's experiences starts to balance the equation a bit.

But, there is no logical reason to start throwing stones and proclaiming that Harper has just finished destroying the program before she has even held her first practice.

She might prove the doubters wrong and if not, I am sure her leash will be a lot shorter this time around.
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Great post, though mucking around with my darkest moments of being not just bitten, but chewed up and spit out by reality.

Maybe we are being as delusional as Holly when we insist the LV job is the be all and end of all for every college coach, especially the superstars. Maybe this deep well of "talent" on the roster just waiting to bust into the final four is just what we've seen on the court - under developed potential who frequently make us want to poke our eyes out.

So if the best we can do is an up and comer from a mid major, why not one who comes relatively cheap and has mega bonus points for the hardcores of being female and a daughter of the legacy? This of course is not only the worse case hiring scenario fear of many, its incredibly disappointing after having the prospect of a star hire tantalizingly dangled.

It also puts KJH behind an unfortunate eightball of fear and resentment from the rest of the fanbase who is ready to move on. The last thing I want is for KJH's legacy to go the way of HW's, and I'm not even sure her leash would be that much shorter. I sure hope a gamble on her, or a forced settling for her, would work out, and I'd certainly support her until given reason not to. But man would this be a scary gamble. Excuse me while I search for the Xanex.
 
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The reality of the situation is that none of us know how many top-tier coaches (if any) are willing to cone to UT, the maximum Fulmer is willing to pay, what criteria the candidates must meet to be considered, how wide a net a search committee is casting, etc.

What we don't need to do is to put all our eggs in one basket and then declare that all is lost if that option isn't available. Most everyone here has said they will keep an open mind re: gender, race, and any other superficial issues attached to the candidates. And most of us can accept that some of our favorites may not be the right person in the eyes of Fulmer/committee and can move on.
 
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1. Fulmer hired a head coach for football after interviewing just 3 people. Did not use search firm or interview them several times and made a quick selection and hired someone with no head coaching experience. It was NOT public knowledge who he was interviewing (and it usually isn’t until the decision is made).
2. With that history, expect Fulmer to do the same with this hire which tells me this is Fulmer’s decision (not a firm search) but he might seek the opinion of a couple others that he trust. He will probably talk to 2 or 3 (maybe he already has) and the decision will be made soon (maybe a couple weeks). Coaches do not want it known that they are being considered for a job (unless they are seeking a pay raise) so this information is usually kept confidential. Do you think Harper would want it known by others that her own school would not hire her???
I will support whoever Fulmer selects. If you a a Lady Vol fan, you have no other choice once the decision is made.
 
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KJH has career 58% winning percentage with 4 trips to the NCAA tournament in 15 years, was put out in 1st rd in 3 of those and went to Sweet 16 this year. She cannot be the leading candidate can she?
 
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This could turn out with two possible turn outs. One being a scenario like Coach K, in which he came from a less than stellar program at Westpoint & struggled at Duke for a few seasons, then the program took off OR a scenario like Holly led us to
 
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PG1 said:
KJH is a done deal! Will be announced Friday! They are giving her time to talk to her Mizzou St team! Waltz has already let Fulmer know he was not interested! I knew it would be a lady vol just thought it would be Nikki Fargas! Oh well! Welcome back KJH! Go Vols!
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Walz not Waltz has not said this. That part of your post is a blatant lie. And thats a fact. She may be announced Friday, but that dont hold water with the info I have either, but what do I know other than half of your post is 100% not factual.
 
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KJ-H's Sweet 16 run must have brought a sigh of relief out of Fulmer. It gave him an easy, popular and cheap out concerning the new coach hire. She will satisfy the vast majority of Lady Vol fans and check all the boxes for many of them - female, former player and "she reminds me of Pat". I know nothing but my instinct tells me she will be the hire. If so, best of luck to her.
 
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Nick Saban had a 58% winning percentage at Michigan State before being hired by LSU and winning a National Championship there.

VolunteerCeltic said:
KJH has career 58% winning percentage with 4 trips to the NCAA tournament in 15 years, was put out in 1st rd in 3 of those and went to Sweet 16 this year. She cannot be the leading candidate can she?
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Creekdog said:
KJ-H's Sweet 16 run must have brought a sigh of relief out of Fulmer. It gave him an easy, popular and cheap out concerning the new coach hire. She will satisfy the vast majority of Lady Vol fans and check all the boxes for many of them - female, former player and "she reminds me of Pat". I know nothing but my instinct tells me she will be the hire. If so, best of luck to her.
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After his time as HC here, fighting for raises for his assistants and enough cash to entice new assistants? I can see the narrative of Fulmer as a penny pincher.
 
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I think Phil is letting the former players call this one so it will be on them if it does not work. Phil not gonna be around that long of course he wants to retire a success but he is hoping that is in football not women's basketball. I am sure he wants a coach to succeed, but this time around looks like the views of a lot of former players is gonna win the day. I'm sure the names they are bringing up are Harper, Fargas, and other former Lady Vols.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
I think Phil is letting the former players call this one so it will be on them if it does not work. Phil not gonna be around that long of course he wants to retire a success but he is hoping that is in football not women's basketball. I am sure he wants a coach to succeed, but this time around looks like the views of a lot of former players is gonna win the day. I'm sure the names they are bringing up are Harper, Fargas, and other former Lady Vols.
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That's a really gutless move on Phil Fulmer's part. The Athletic Director should make the moves and take whatever pressure those moves may bring.
 
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Tennesseefan2019 said:
That's a really gutless move on Phil Fulmer's part. The Athletic Director should make the moves and take whatever pressure those moves may bring.
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Seems incredible to me for someone to rip a coach or AD on what someone says as "I think." How about we wait and base praise or criticism on facts. SMDH......
 
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You can go back to where she began he coaching career until today Kelly has never had the players that she would inherit at Tennessee. Whether that would make a difference would be determined if she gets the job. The problem you might say is why she couldn't get the players at NC State in four years. Her talent level while there was always toward the bottom of the league. Even her talent level at Missouri State was middle of the league but had improved the last two seasons. Her entire team this season except for one player were freshmen and sophomores. I would be more concerned about her ability to recruit than I would her coaching ability. She has never recruited well on any level except for the last season or two at Missouri State and even there she is just recruiting to the level of the league no four or five stars on the roster.
If she returns there look for that team to compete for 30 wins next seasons everybody back they would be the favorite to win their league easily next season. If she comes here and Horston stays she will be expected to be in the top three in the SEC no reason not to be if all the present players return and the class that is coming in. If she can do that then advance to at least the elite 8 of the NCAA first year will be a success. If it is 20 and 12 she will already have the majority of the fans base complaining about her ability and why did we hire her.
That is her decision does she want the pressure of Tennessee stay tuned because I think Fulmer will offer her the job. If she decided to turn down what I expect to be about 750 k for five seasons to stay at Missouri State and 250 k then we'll know she likes what she is doing and doesn't want what you get in competition and fan abuse of the SEC. I am interested to see what happens and if she is gonna be the only person we interview until she accepts or turns down the job. Fulmer doesn't usually interview may but I was hoping we would at least go to three or four different people not just one person here is the job.
 
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teacherdean said:
That is a no brainer, however, we need to give KJH credit for coaching well against power 5 teams. That being said, I would rather we get an experienced power 5 coach.
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I was referring to the original post that said the Missouri AD had been contacted.
KJH isn't at MO.
 
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Actually, Drake should be the favorite next year, I believe. They also have an outstanding coach with much of their roster coming back along with some outstanding prospects (and a transfer from Missouri). MVC is going to be competetive for years with UNI added to the mix of teams vying for a title.
 
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Kellie is the perfect choice....

1. Former Lady Vol...
2. From the Summitt family...
3. A woman (which will keep most of the paying fan base happy)....
4. She's not expensive......
5. Her teams seemed to respect her....
6. Her teams played modern basketball....
7. She's attractive....(Phil is a man)
8. Should be (hopefully) acceptable to current players and recruits.
9. Wears a dress....
10. Loves Tennessee.....
 
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Man, this site just can't get enough. Whether it turns out to be KJH or not, this is another unconfirmed statement made by a media person. This is the Footvols OC search all over again. Most agree ADPF made a good decision there. Give him the benefit of the doubt in this search. He has made good choices for coaches in other non-revenue generating sports to this point.
 
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