Major baseball problems at Alabama

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Volfan1000 said:
I just watched the Southeastern 14 podcast on You Tube about Bohannon and the Alabama baseball program.

Bohannon was the 13th highest paid baseball coach in the SEC and only the Missouri coach is lower at number 14 in pay.

The Campbell and Coastal Carolina coaches were mentioned as possible replacements.

Byrne hired the LSU coach at Arisona and has a lot of connections in the college baseball community.

Hopefully Alabama does not try to poach Anderson or Elander away from us to be their next head coach.
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I see no way Gilmore leaves Coastal at 65 years old. Counting his playing days, he’s been there for 30+ years.
 
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FROM ESPN.Com

Alabama baseball coach Brad Bohannon was fired Thursday amid a widespread investigation into suspicious betting activity on the Crimson Tide's game against LSU six days ago.

Sportsbook surveillance video indicated that the person who placed the bets was communicating with Bohannon at the time, multiple sources with direct information about the investigation told ESPN.

The school announced that athletic director Greg Byrne has "initiated the termination process" for Bohannon for "among other things, violating the standards, duties, and responsibilities expected of University employees."

Jason Jackson will serve as Alabama's interim coach, according to the school, which said it will not provide further comment because of an "ongoing review." The Crimson Tide won its first game under Jackson, defeating Vanderbilt 11-2 on Thursday night.

ESPN has reached out to Bohannon for comment.

The alleged suspicious activity took place Friday at the sportsbook at the Great American Ball Park, according to the Ohio Casino Control Commission.

The OCCC's investigation is centered on two bets on the Tigers to win from the same unidentified customer, multiple industry sources told ESPN. A source familiar with the investigation told ESPN's Pete Thamel that there's "no reason to believe any student-athletes are involved."

Alabama's scheduled starting pitcher, ace Luke Holman, was scratched before the LSU game because of back tightness and was replaced by sophomore Hagan Banks, who hadn't started since March 16. LSU won the game 8-6.

The OCCC was alerted to the alleged activity Friday by independent Las Vegas-based integrity firm U.S. Integrity, which works with the OCCC and the SEC to monitor the betting market. U.S. Integrity alerted to its clients Friday, and the OCCC halted betting on college baseball games involving Alabama. The SEC has contracted with U.S. Integrity since 2018 and has used the firm to monitor all conference events, including baseball.

Indiana gaming regulators also were alerted to suspicious bets on the Alabama-LSU game that were placed with sportsbooks in the Hoosier State. Indiana has halted betting on Alabama baseball and instructed sportsbooks to refund any futures wagers on the Crimson Tide.
NCAA policy prohibits athletes, coaches and personnel from betting on sports.

"The NCAA takes sports wagering very seriously and is committed to the protection of student-athlete well-being and the integrity of competition," a spokesperson for the NCAA said Thursday. "We will work with our partners to protect student-athletes and the sports they play. The association is monitoring the situation.

"Due to confidentiality rules put in place by NCAA member schools, the NCAA does not comment on current, pending or potential investigations."
SEC commissioner Greg Sankey said the conference also is investigating the situation, and reiterated its zero-tolerance policy on gambling.

"The University of Alabama has taken swift action after information about baseball sports wagering activity was questioned by industry regulators," Sankey said in a statement Thursday. "Ensuring the integrity of athletic competition is our highest priority, and for that purpose the SEC monitors gambling activity through its relationship with US Integrity and has done so since 2018.

"There must be zero tolerance for activity that puts into question the integrity of competition. We will remain in communication with the University throughout its ongoing review and will have no further comment at this time."

Pennsylvania became the fourth state to order sportsbooks to halt betting on Alabama baseball, joining Ohio, Indiana and New Jersey as investigations continued. A spokesperson for the Pennsylvania Gaming Control Board said the ban on betting on Alabama baseball was put in place "as a matter of precaution" and will last until "further notice."

Ronnie Johns, executive director of the Louisiana Gaming Control Board, described one of the bets as "large" to NOLA.com and added that he didn't suspect anything suspicious regarding LSU."The problem," Johns told NOLA.com, "would have been whether someone on the Alabama side was suspicious of activity."

Bohannon, who had been the Crimson Tide's coach since June 2017, had a 166-124 record with one NCAA tournament appearance, in 2021. Twenty Alabama players were selected in the MLB draft during his tenure. The Crimson Tide are 30-15 this season and are slated to begin a home series against No. 5 Vanderbilt on Thursday night.

Regular-season college baseball does not typically attract significant betting interest or large wagers. FanDuel said it didn't take a single bet on the game, and other sportsbooks also reported minimal betting on the game.

Copyright: © ESPN Enterprises, Inc. All rights reserved.
 
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turbovol said:
FROM ESPN.Com

Alabama baseball coach Brad Bohannon was fired Thursday amid a widespread investigation into suspicious betting activity on the Crimson Tide's game against LSU six days ago.

Sportsbook surveillance video indicated that the person who placed the bets was communicating with Bohannon at the time, multiple sources with direct information about the investigation told ESPN.

The school announced that athletic director Greg Byrne has "initiated the termination process" for Bohannon for "among other things, violating the standards, duties, and responsibilities expected of University employees."

Jason Jackson will serve as Alabama's interim coach, according to the school, which said it will not provide further comment because of an "ongoing review." The Crimson Tide won its first game under Jackson, defeating Vanderbilt 11-2 on Thursday night.

ESPN has reached out to Bohannon for comment.

The alleged suspicious activity took place Friday at the sportsbook at the Great American Ball Park, according to the Ohio Casino Control Commission.

The OCCC's investigation is centered on two bets on the Tigers to win from the same unidentified customer, multiple industry sources told ESPN. A source familiar with the investigation told ESPN's Pete Thamel that there's "no reason to believe any student-athletes are involved."

Alabama's scheduled starting pitcher, ace Luke Holman, was scratched before the LSU game because of back tightness and was replaced by sophomore Hagan Banks, who hadn't started since March 16. LSU won the game 8-6.

The OCCC was alerted to the alleged activity Friday by independent Las Vegas-based integrity firm U.S. Integrity, which works with the OCCC and the SEC to monitor the betting market. U.S. Integrity alerted to its clients Friday, and the OCCC halted betting on college baseball games involving Alabama. The SEC has contracted with U.S. Integrity since 2018 and has used the firm to monitor all conference events, including baseball.

Indiana gaming regulators also were alerted to suspicious bets on the Alabama-LSU game that were placed with sportsbooks in the Hoosier State. Indiana has halted betting on Alabama baseball and instructed sportsbooks to refund any futures wagers on the Crimson Tide.
NCAA policy prohibits athletes, coaches and personnel from betting on sports.

"The NCAA takes sports wagering very seriously and is committed to the protection of student-athlete well-being and the integrity of competition," a spokesperson for the NCAA said Thursday. "We will work with our partners to protect student-athletes and the sports they play. The association is monitoring the situation.

"Due to confidentiality rules put in place by NCAA member schools, the NCAA does not comment on current, pending or potential investigations."
SEC commissioner Greg Sankey said the conference also is investigating the situation, and reiterated its zero-tolerance policy on gambling.

"The University of Alabama has taken swift action after information about baseball sports wagering activity was questioned by industry regulators," Sankey said in a statement Thursday. "Ensuring the integrity of athletic competition is our highest priority, and for that purpose the SEC monitors gambling activity through its relationship with US Integrity and has done so since 2018.

"There must be zero tolerance for activity that puts into question the integrity of competition. We will remain in communication with the University throughout its ongoing review and will have no further comment at this time."

Pennsylvania became the fourth state to order sportsbooks to halt betting on Alabama baseball, joining Ohio, Indiana and New Jersey as investigations continued. A spokesperson for the Pennsylvania Gaming Control Board said the ban on betting on Alabama baseball was put in place "as a matter of precaution" and will last until "further notice."

Ronnie Johns, executive director of the Louisiana Gaming Control Board, described one of the bets as "large" to NOLA.com and added that he didn't suspect anything suspicious regarding LSU."The problem," Johns told NOLA.com, "would have been whether someone on the Alabama side was suspicious of activity."

Bohannon, who had been the Crimson Tide's coach since June 2017, had a 166-124 record with one NCAA tournament appearance, in 2021. Twenty Alabama players were selected in the MLB draft during his tenure. The Crimson Tide are 30-15 this season and are slated to begin a home series against No. 5 Vanderbilt on Thursday night.

Regular-season college baseball does not typically attract significant betting interest or large wagers. FanDuel said it didn't take a single bet on the game, and other sportsbooks also reported minimal betting on the game.

Copyright: © ESPN Enterprises, Inc. All rights reserved.
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I like how you included the copyright 🤣
 
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OldTimer said:
No doubt CFA isn't leaving and will never intentionally be a head coach again. CTV was 38 when hired by UT, I think he may have been the youngest SEC head coach, ever. Elander is only 32, I’m not sure if any SEC program would hand him the keys just yet. Don’t get me wrong, he could handle the job, just not sure if any would give him the shot
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If the NFL will do it, perhaps
 
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“ surveillance video indicated that the person who placed the bets was communicating with Bohannon at the time, multiple sources with direct information about the investigation told ESPN.”

What doesn’t make sense is the big bet on LSU, out of 100 folks, who would pick Alabama to beat Skeenes anyway? There has got to be more to this story and surprisingly or maybe on the advice of his attorneys, to my knowledge Bohannon has not said a peep. Usually when someone is blatantly caught doing some thing wrong thats embarrassing, they quickly come out and deny even thought they wind up being found guilty.

I’d really like to know the relationship of the guy CBB was talking too, maybe it will come out sooner than later.

What makes the most sense is a big bet on Alabama, and then Skeenes gets scratched at the last minute, not the other way around. Can't wait until the 30 for 30 comes out
 
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OldTimer said:
“ surveillance video indicated that the person who placed the bets was communicating with Bohannon at the time, multiple sources with direct information about the investigation told ESPN.”

What doesn’t make sense is the big bet on LSU, out of 100 folks, who would pick Alabama to beat Skeenes anyway? There has got to be more to this story and surprisingly or maybe on the advice of his attorneys, to my knowledge Bohannon has not said a peep. Usually when someone is blatantly caught doing some thing wrong thats embarrassing, they quickly come out and deny even thought they wind up being found guilty.

I’d really like to know the relationship of the guy CBB was talking too, maybe it will come out sooner than later.

What makes the most sense is a big bet on Alabama and there Skeenes gets scratched at the last minute, cant wait until the 30 for 30 comes out
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What I read on internet..
Nick Saban had two large bags filled with $100 bills.
Nate Oats took the bag containing $2.45m, waited for the call from Brad, and then put it on LSU to win. That bet paid off $1,000,000.
The second bag was used in a similar fashion / bet with same results.

The House does not like people betting with insider info, and a coach guarantening defeat.
 
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Now that I think about this, Brad has been throwing games for a long time. In Hoover last year, I happened to catch this cluster prior to our clubbing of LSU.

Bama vs Aggies. First 3-4 innings, A&M made five freaking errors. Bama was cruising along ahead 6-1.

Brad had to work double over tine to find a way to squeeze defeat of the jaws of victory. Brought in a couple of relief pitchers who had like 7.5 ERA's. They proceeded to serve up a bunch of lolly pop 82 mph fastballs that A&M hit toward Soth America.

Aggies came back to win 12-8. Brad/Nick/Nate laughed all the way to the bank.

Baseball vs Texas A&M on 5/27/2022 - Box Score - University of Alabama Athletics (rolltide.com)
 
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I think we may be overthinking this.

It may be as simple as Bohannon having a friend in Cincinnati who was going to the sportsbook anyway. (The Reds were out of town in Oakland) And Bo was talking to him on phone and complaining that his starter was out for game #1.

Friend heard this suddenly inside info drop in his lap and laid a few hundred on the game

If he told Bo, Bohannon may have laughed it off as funny.

What's funny is so much more money is bet on the apps now more than in the sports books. maybe the friend- who would normally use an app, went to sportsbook hoping the anonymity would disguise who had inside info.

The schmuck who made the bet did not make too much windfall.

I know college baseball is not normally available on my app (BetMGM) so I wonder if a moneyline is only available and not a spread for a loe-interest sport like college baseball. I never do anything but moneyline on low scoring sports like baseball and hockey anyway.
 
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fryeguy93 said:
I think we may be overthinking this.

It may be as simple as Bohannon having a friend in Cincinnati who was going to the sportsbook anyway. (The Reds were out of town in Oakland) And Bo was talking to him on phone and complaining that his starter was out for game #1.

Friend heard this suddenly inside info drop in his lap and laid a few hundred on the game

If he told Bo, Bohannon may have laughed it off as funny.

What's funny is so much more money is bet on the apps now more than in the sports books. maybe the friend- who would normally use an app, went to sportsbook hoping the anonymity would disguise who had inside info.

The schmuck who made the bet did not make too much windfall.

I know college baseball is not normally available on my app (BetMGM) so I wonder if a moneyline is only available and not a spread for a loe-interest sport like college baseball. I never do anything but moneyline on low scoring sports like baseball and hockey anyway.
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I think this could be the way things played out.......however, he could be guilty as sin too!
 
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bonnieandclyde said:
The two are vastly different. Miller acted on his own, and Oates really didn’t have anything to do with it other than Miller playing for him. On the other hand, it sounds to me like Bohannon was responsible for these actions
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LOL, except that Oats knew about it and let him keep playing like nothing happened.
 
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Christian Lowe said:
If it comes out that bet was placed on LSU, all hell is about to break loose

If he bet on himself, who cares. Pete rose 2.0 so maybe he’ll get a lifetime show cause, but if you want to bet on yourself I don’t see the problem

Unless it’s stupid prop bets like -3 bunt singles so you lay down bunts all game long sacrificing your chances of winning to hit the prop, but I doubt those bets exist for college baseball
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Pete Rose betting on his own team is almost as bad as betting against his team.
 
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drvenner said:
Pete Rose betting on his own team is almost as bad as betting against his team.
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No one on the Pro-Pete side of argument ever understands this argument.
A manager manages 162 games. Sometimes, they have to throw in the towel on one game to try and win 2 or 3 more.
Have a bet on one game and burn out a bullpen to win that one game and they are not usable for several more days.
Play a guy who really needs a day off or risk worsening an injury

In baseball, winning a single game can cost you winning several more.
Think about a pitcher who just gave up 5 runs and stays in the game because the manager is trying to not to exhaust the bullpen on a lost cause.

Gambling is the one unforgivable sin in sports. Whataboutism can never make that go away
It's made clear to every player, coach, manager, owner, trainer, referee, umpire, etc.
 
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Alabama Hot Board: Candidates to watch
COACHES CORNER Kendall Rogers - May 4, 2023

Cliff Godwin, East Carolina

Justin Haire, Campbell

Dan Heefner, Dallas Baptist

Dan McDonnell, Louisville

Chris Pollard, Duke

Tom Walter, Wake Forest

Rob Vaughn, Maryland


Campbell's coach is due for a big gig.........
 
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OldTimer said:
Alabama Hot Board: Candidates to watch
COACHES CORNER Kendall Rogers - May 4, 2023

Cliff Godwin, East Carolina

Justin Haire, Campbell

Dan Heefner, Dallas Baptist

Dan McDonnell, Louisville

Chris Pollard, Duke

Tom Walter, Wake Forest

Rob Vaughn, Maryland


Campbell's coach is due for a big gig.........
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Dan Heefner did a radio interview with Mike Rooney yesterday. He impressed the hell out of me. This is a guy that knows baseball.
 
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txbo said:
Dan Heefner did a radio interview with Mike Rooney yesterday. He impressed the hell out of me. This is a guy that knows baseball.
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he's done a great job at Dallas Baptist. Someone like him, Goodwin or Haire, may prefer the comfort of being really good at a mid-major and not getting into the dogfight of the SEC.
 
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OldTimer said:
he's done a great job at Dallas Baptist. Someone like him or Haire, may prefer the comfort of being really good at a mid-major and not getting into the dogfight of the SEC.
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Maybe. I'd just as soon he stay out of the SEC also. What this guy could do with the resources of an SEC school scares me.
 
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