Manziel Being Investigated

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I have to say, the rule against this baffles me. A player can get a summer job and earn some $. Why can't he get paid to sign some things? It doesn't affect his status as a student athlete any more than does the summer job.

I can see banning taking compensation or deferred compensation to get involved with an agent because that makes you a professional football player. But signing autographs isn't really getting paid directly to play. It may spin off from that, but not the same, imo.
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
In Big Orange Country, I believe that Charles Woodson still holds that distinction.
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I don't hate Woodson for winning the Heisman, he had a great year that year. I hate the retarded sports writers and anyone else who cast a vote for anyone other than Manning. Stats alone, Manning should have won hands down.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I have to say, the rule against this baffles me. A player can get a summer job and earn some $. Why can't he get paid to sign some things? It doesn't affect his status as a student athlete any more than does the summer job.

I can see banning taking compensation or deferred compensation to get involved with an agent because that makes you a professional football player. But signing autographs isn't really getting paid directly to play. It may spin off from that, but not the same, imo.
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NCAA works just like our Government does

Some things they do just doesn't make sense
 
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According to Joe Schad, the evidence against Johnny is pretty clear. Not looking good for Johnny football and A&M
 
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They have prominent autograph brokers claiming Johnny received money for autographs, that his assistant said he would do more autograph sessions for more money, and pictures of him signing the night before the BCS game in the hotel room.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I have to say, the rule against this baffles me. A player can get a summer job and earn some $. Why can't he get paid to sign some things? It doesn't affect his status as a student athlete any more than does the summer job.

I can see banning taking compensation or deferred compensation to get involved with an agent because that makes you a professional football player. But signing autographs isn't really getting paid directly to play. It may spin off from that, but not the same, imo.
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It's pretty clear that they don't want any student athlete financially gaining from being a student athlete. Signing autographs is clear financial benefit from being a student athlete.

Agree or disagree. But it's pretty clear what their stance is, and that this falls within that stance.
 
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volfanngaytorland said:
They have prominent autograph brokers claiming Johnny received money for autographs, that his assistant said he would do more autograph sessions for more money, and pictures of him signing the night before the BCS game in the hotel room.
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All he said she said unless they have some sort of record showing money actually changed hands. They had photos and videos of the Bama players signing autographs in the store and then walking around in new suites. Nothing happened.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
It wouldn't surprise me if Bama is behind all this. JM is an impressionable and obviously stupid kid who is a bit too full of himself. Chalk it up to immaturity and a Zeppelin sized ego. Bama boosters may have taken advantage of this personality "disorder" and lured him into doing this stuff so as to neutralize TAMU's chances against the Tide. Pure speculation, I admit, but I wouldn't put it above what cheating Bamans are capable.
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Sounds suspiciously like someone has received their new supply of aluminum foil this season and is bracing tight for a royal beat down for the 7th time in a row.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I have to say, the rule against this baffles me. A player can get a summer job and earn some $. Why can't he get paid to sign some things? It doesn't affect his status as a student athlete any more than does the summer job.

I can see banning taking compensation or deferred compensation to get involved with an agent because that makes you a professional football player. But signing autographs isn't really getting paid directly to play. It may spin off from that, but not the same, imo.
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It's a very necessary rule and here is what would happen if it wasn't there.



Boosters would tell a recruit if they sign with their school they would pay them 5k a month for their autographs!



This stops the circumventing of the extra benefit rules.
 
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volfanbill said:
No. You just can't bring anything to a forum other than what Tennessee did in the previous century like it is somehow relevant to a discussion in an around the NCAA thread.
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I guess people like CBJ, the current players, former players, etc. who embrace and talk about Tennessee TRADITION really don't know what they are talking about and are an embarrassment to Tennessee (your words). No, I think the issue you have with me is personal for whatever reason and quite frankly I don't need nor solicit your ignorant comments. I'll make a deal ... you leave me alone and I will leave you alone.

For the record, at least Bamawriter knew I was, in good fun, joking as he does with UT and I do not take it personal. Bud, you are way too serious ... you need to take a break from Volnation, it is not really that important.
 
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bamawriter said:
So your streak from '95-'01 is nothing to write home about?
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Not as much as some put to it.

Bama cheated, got caught, hired some bad coaches and sucked for the better part of decade. UT has found the same basement they just took a different path.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Probable, given the resentment over TAMU moving to the SEC. Maybe a lesson for players that like winning the lottery, if you win the Heisman, get and stay as far away from flies and stray dogs as you can get. Knowhutimen?
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More like UTX not liking all the attention the Aggies have been getting.

For the record though...it's all on Manziel for breaking the rules. Now the reason/money behind the leak is what woodsman and I ate talking about. Not naive enough to say this isn't happening at many places. Just some get out and some don't. It's not far fetched to say info in the wrong hands is never safe. Unless u have the Bama/auburn agreement. Man they'd burn each other down real quick if that weren't in place. Ha!! :eek:lol:
 
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GoVols15 said:
For the record, at least Bamawriter knew I was, in good fun, joking as he does with UT and I do not take it personal. Bud, you are way too serious ... you need to take a break from Volnation, it is not really that important.
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I'm glad you don't take it seriously. I got an infraction for one of my responses to you, so not everyone appreciates the ribbing.
 
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TUSKtimes said:
Well, we hired Nick Saban. And you?
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Who knows. We upgraded over the calamity known as Dooley. I hope its good enough to get UT back to the top but Im not ready to claim UT back yet.

Saban was a slam dunk, no brainer. He could have gone to many places and won big. If I was a Bama fan I be a Dolphin fan for life. He could still be at LSU working on a half dozen or so.
 
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