Marijuana decriminalization vote expected in House

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#251
#251
Should have been ended a long time ago. I'd much rather see someone take pot for pain than pills.
 
#252
#252
NEO said:
I just feel sorry for u poor suckers who have to get drug tested all the time.

I havent peed in a cup since I was 17 working at fed ex.

I have literally been in the bathroom before board meetings and had executives doing lines to help get their minds clear..
.their words not mine.

I will say though that these same guys looked down on weed as a ghetto drug so it's just a weird world.
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I’ve never used so it doesn’t bother me and if I did and pissed hot, guess who they would report the results to? Me.
 
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#253
#253
Rickyvol77 said:
does this include those who killed themselves while on marijuana?
or those who developed lung cancer from smoking it?
or those who were high and killed themselves in car accidents?
or those who smoked weed laced with PCP or fentanyl and died in the ED?

Because those things happen of the time
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I see your point but “product plus ___” doesn’t mean the product (in this case pot) is the underlying factor. If we follow that to its conclusion we could blame a host of things for deaths by association.

Suicide: underlying cause is mental illness.

DUI Car Accident: underlying cause willful neglect of civil responsibility.

Lung Cancer: underlying cause smoke inhalation (just like tobacco).

Overdosing: underlying cause the drugs laced into the pot (which legalization would correct).

Cannabis is not a magic plant that cures all illness. It has negative side effects on susceptible parts of the population but also has recreational uses when taken responsibly and medical ones when prescribed properly.

The root of the argument for ending prohibition is personal freedom and choice to consume a plant that was legal in the US for most of our history.

Can it help medically? Yes
Can it be used safely for recreational use? Yes.
Can it harm people who abuse it? Yes.

We “allow” others to take these risk everyday when they buy beer, tobacco, sports cars, cheeseburgers, guns, dogs, chainsaws, etc. All are legal because we trust the majority of citizens to act in a responsible way with risk. Some will abuse it but that’s how freedoms work.

Still you have a right to your position. I’ll defend that freedom too.
 
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#256
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Elhanan said:
I see your point but “product plus ___” doesn’t mean the product (in this case pot) is the underlying factor. If we follow that to its conclusion we could blame a host of things for deaths by association.

Suicide: underlying cause is mental illness.

DUI Car Accident: underlying cause willful neglect of civil responsibility.

Lung Cancer: underlying cause smoke inhalation (just like tobacco).

Overdosing: underlying cause the drugs laced into the pot (which legalization would correct).

Cannabis is not a magic plant that cures all illness. It has negative side effects on susceptible parts of the population but also has recreational uses when taken responsibly and medical ones when prescribed properly.

The root of the argument for ending prohibition is personal freedom and choice to consume a plant that was legal in the US for most of our history.

Can it help medically? Yes
Can it be used safely for recreational use? Yes.
Can it harm people who abuse it? Yes.

We “allow” others to take these risk everyday when they buy beer, tobacco, sports cars, cheeseburgers, guns, dogs, chainsaws, etc. All are legal because we trust the majority of citizens to act in a responsible way with risk. Some will abuse it but that’s how freedoms work.

Still you have a right to your position. I’ll defend that freedom too.
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I’m not advocating for it to be illegal or legal. I’m indifferent
 
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#258
#258
I'm game, let's decriminalize it.
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#261
Carl Pickens said:
I’ve also read that mushrooms and low doses of lsd have shown to be effective for treating depression
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Have you ever heard the stoned ape theory? Homo sapien cognitive ability evolved faster than Neanderthal, etc. and some surmise it's because they were eating psychedelic mushrooms.
 
#263
#263
There's a show on Hulu called Hamilton's Pharmacopeia, and I think it's pretty interesting. The episode on PCP shed a lot of light on its medicinal properties and how it's been maybe over-sensationalized throughout the years.
 
#267
#267
The Buffalo Theory by Cliff Clavin:
"... A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members.

"In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, as we know, kills brain cells. But naturally it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first.

In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers."
 
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#268
#268
Rickyvol77 said:
Come visit a level 1 trauma center during the summer and spend a week with us
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In a former life I worked as an RN in the TBICU at a level 1and I don't recall ever having seen a patient who was there because of THC. There, now our anecdotal evidences cancel out - you were in patient care?

Truthfully, I'm kind of astonished that you find your way to the wrong side of virtually every argument.
 
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#269
rjd970 said:
My point was arguing in any way marijuana laws are based in health or safety in anyway is pathetically hollow when put in context of other legal drugs.

Just like any drug, legal or otherwise, there are side effects. However, marijuana is unique among drugs because it has legitimate medicinal purposes and is all but impossible to overdose on.

There really are no good reasons for it to be illegal. None.
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amen
the keepers of the laws must be making plenty of money keeping it illegal....how's that "war on drugs" thing going.....longest war in the history of the world?
 
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#272
#272
happy-go_vol said:
Ask the people who's family and friends that have suffered mentally due to being addicted.
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Really? So you're going to play the emotional angle?

How many families had loved ones killed in vehicular accidents that didn't involve alcohol or negligence? Should we ban cars?
 
#273
#273
happy-go_vol said:
Ask the people who's family and friends that have suffered mentally due to being addicted.
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Does having a sibling who died from an od count? If so then it seems obvious to me that no law law prevented this. I know personal liberty is passé with most of the country today, owning your body is the most fundamental basic right. If your not free to make bad decisions concerning your body, you ain’t free.
 
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#274
Rasputin_Vol said:
Really? So you're going to play the emotional angle?

How many families had loved ones killed in vehicular accidents that didn't involve alcohol or negligence? Should we ban cars?
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Appeals to emotion come right before the ad hominems. These represent the last bastions of a failed argument.
 
#275
#275
n_huffhines said:
Have you ever heard the stoned ape theory? Homo sapien cognitive ability evolved faster than Neanderthal, etc. and some surmise it's because they were eating psychedelic mushrooms.
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If you haven’t watched Hamilton’s Pharmacopeia (I watch it on Hulu) it’s totally worth the time.
 
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