Mass Shooting in Atlanta

[LouderVol]

I would put a limit on the number of guns that could be purchased by one individual during a given period of time.
Maybe increased waiting periods for some purchases.
Chirp.....chirp.

Why?

Person can just wait X days to get Y guns. If they are stocking up on guns to go on some rampage clearly they dont mind waiting.

Waiting period is the same thing. You arent changing the curve, you are just randomly moving it. And since its random and not one set schedule you arent going to change performance patterns of random killers.

All you are doing is making it more difficult for legal voters to vote, I mean legal owners to own.

 

[VolStrom]

Idk I think logic suggests that a shoot-out 30,000 feet in the air doesn't end well.

Okay, so other than watching movies where Goldfinger gets sucked out of one of the windows, let's hear some logic behind that statement?

 

[Tastylicks]

Then you should be in favor of my proposal. The TSA is completely worthless and is theater (direct quote from a federal agent who understands security)

yea the TSA sucks. Thanks a lot George W. Bush, what a fraud he was

 

[NorthDallas40]

I'm on record. Everyone needs their own mini-nuke. Mutually assured global destruction at everyone's finger tip. What could make the world safer than that?

Works for me!

 

[Tastylicks]

Okay, so other than watching movies where Goldfinger gets sucked out of one of the windows, let's hear some logic behind that statement?

it was your scenario, not mine. You should have to prove to me why a shoot-out in an in-air flight is a good idea

 

[LouderVol]

Why stop there. I think we should let passengers carry on a plane. We want to make sure we are safe and can defend ourselves. Besides, whats the worst that could happen?

A bunch of armed terrorists take over an undefended plane, smash it into a couple occupied buildings, leading the US into two more wars it doesnt need.

Why does that worse case scenario sound familiar?

 

[Tastylicks]

Gee goes to wonder how 9/11 would have wound up if some of the passengers were armed huh?

Once again you non sequitur yourself girl. Good job!

Prolly woulda been way worse if the assailants were armed. They accomplished what they did with only box cutters. And you want to allow those terrorists to bring on guns? yikes. ya'll are crazy

 

[Tastylicks]

A bunch of armed terrorists take over an undefended plane, smash it into a couple occupied buildings, leading the US into two more wars it doesnt need.

Why does that worse case scenario sound familiar?

yah that was my point. I was being sarcastic

 

[LouderVol]

I agree with that but again, the discussion was on CDC research

So "weighing in" was a slip of your tongue?

While they are studying armed populace in this country, maybe they can study what happens to unarmed populace, even in this country.

 

[Tastylicks]

So "weighing in" was a slip of your tongue?

While they are studying armed populace in this country, maybe they can study what happens to unarmed populace, even in this country.

Umm no, not a slip of tongue. If someone does research I would expect them to weigh in with their conclusions. Thats kinda how every research project works

 

[LouderVol]

yah that was my point. I was being sarcastic

So unarmed population is the worst case scenario. I agree.

 

[VolStrom]

it was your scenario, not mine. You should have to prove to me why a shoot-out in an in-air flight is a good idea

Maybe if the bad guy gets shot the plane doesn't crash? Are you as dumb as you seem? I like to compare stupid people to a box of rocks, but I think maybe you've exceeded that analogy.

 

[LouderVol]

Prolly woulda been way worse if the assailants were armed. They accomplished what they did with only box cutters. And you want to allow those terrorists to bring on guns? yikes. ya'll are crazy

Worse how? I guess the PA flight is your argument?

 

[Tastylicks]

Maybe if the bad guy gets shot the plane doesn't crash? Are you as dumb as you seem? I like to compare stupid people to a box of rocks, but I think maybe you've exceeded that analogy.

This might sound crazy but bad guys shoot back

 

[NorthDallas40]

Prolly woulda been way worse if the assailants were armed. They accomplished what they did with only box cutters. And you want to allow those terrorists to bring on guns? yikes. ya'll are crazy

LMFAO the non sequitur as a means of validation of previous non sequiturs! Indeed that is your goto response and basically all you’ve got

 

[luthervol]

No, you think limiting the rights of law abiding citizens will save you and I think liberty is important. People doing the shooting don't buy guns with the same regulations. Your proposed solution accomplishes absolutely nothing

Where (how) do the people doing the shooting buy guns then?

 

[LouderVol]

Umm no, not a slip of tongue. If someone does research I would expect them to weigh in with their conclusions. Thats kinda how every research project works

So its research with a end goal of presenting information to the government. Would you be comfortable with said research being funded/organized/reviewed by a republican committee?

 

[utvolpj]

This might sound crazy but bad guys shoot back

So you think all these "bad guys" will pass all the checks and have all the required paperwork to carry on a plane?

 

[C-south]

Worse how? I guess the PA flight is your argument?

Well if you hijack a plane with a gun and intentionally crash it, killing everyone on board, it’s different than doing it with a box cutter.

 

[utvolpj]

Where (how) do the people doing the shooting buy guns then?

I'm guessing they all use the gun show loophole.

Or they buy them from other criminals. Whichever you think makes more sense

 

[Tastylicks]

Worse how? I guess the PA flight is your argument?

they wouldn't have had to sneak on. In the wacky proposals Im seeing here, we allow anyone who wants to carry a gun on the plane. They coulda brought in their AR15s, wiped out anyone they wanted. they coulda hijacked more - because why not?

I feel for police in yall's brain dead utopias. They have a hard enough time keeping peace. Now they would have to contend with shootouts, not knowing who is the assailant with everyone tryin to be "John Wayne badass"

I will live in the real world, thank you very much.

 

[NorthDallas40]

It’s no coincidence tasty and Luther have bonded based on their posting histories. In fact it kinda makes me wonder if mick has been wrongly accused.

 

[luthervol]

I'm guessing they all use the gun show loophole.

Or they buy them from other criminals. Whichever you think makes more sense

Now we have something we can agree to focus on.
And how did the criminals who are selling guns to the next set of criminals get their guns?

 

[LouderVol]

This might sound crazy but bad guys shoot back

This might be even crazier but the baseline is the bad guy is already in control with the weapons they have.

A 75% bad guy control with an armed passenger vs a 100% bad guy control with no armed passengers seems like an improvement. If it saves even one life, it's worth it.

Funny how that's only used to disarm people instead of letting them have a (better) chance to defend themselves.

 

[NorthDallas40]

they wouldn't have had to sneak on. In the wacky proposals Im seeing here, we allow anyone who wants to carry a gun on the plane. They coulda brought in their AR15s, wiped out anyone they wanted. they coulda hijacked more - because why not?

I feel for police in yall's brain dead utopias. They have a hard enough time keeping peace. Now they would have to contend with shootouts, not knowing who is the assailant with everyone tryin to be "John Wayne badass"

I will live in the real world, thank you very much.

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