Milton’s accuracy and velocity

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BJSforVols said:
Agree on Jackson. He is more like Helton was for the 94 Vols. That said, Milton has not proven he can be a QB1. He has had multiple opportunities and 2 different universities. He did not look like a QB1 last night either when he had to come into the game other than mop up duty. I'm sure Milton will get the first opportunity as QB1 and will likely start the 1st game of the season. If he is still starting at the end of the season and is healthy, it likely means Nico is not the franchise QB we hope.
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I know Trevor Lawrence won a Natty as a freshman but that Clemson team was loaded. Nico can still be a program changer but that doesn’t mean he’ll start day 1 and expecting him to is probably a reach. I think Milton has a lot of interesting potential but as we know, potential means you haven’t done anything yet.

His arm is almost too strong 😂 idk if he can get that under control. Because if he had any semblance of touch he’d be the first QB off the board. I mean if you put him next to Josh Allen and they have a deep ball contest, I like Milton’s chances. Year 3 in the system, and these last 2 games are critical for him.
 
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rocketskates said:
He overthrew a few but didn’t look awful. I will say, if no one is open I like how he just barrels up the middle for 7-8 yards. He may not have the finesse footwork, but eventually you get tired of having to tackle someone so big.
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Except when we needed a first down on 4th. Hands it to the lightweight freshman back. Why he wasn't under center and pushing forward is a question for the play caller.
 
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Milton will more than likely have a year to fix this and we may see a completely different ran offensive scheme next year.
 
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GregAmsler said:
Agree with all of that. I’d also point out that even when he “just” had Dean, Palmer, and Johnson, he still had a lot of success and they still put up big yardage. I believe all 3 either won an SEC championship or an East championship. But those Florida teams also played defense. That needs to be Tennessee’s next big step forward.
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So this prompted me to do some research. Is it too early to fire a DC after 2 years? I remember Saban firing Kevin Steele after 1 year at Alabama and promoting Kirby. But since we were doing the Spurrier comps, I looked up his DCs by year:

1990: Jim Bates
1991-93: Ron Zook
1994-95: Bob Pruett
1996-98: Bob Stoops
1999-2001: Jon Hoke

Longest tenure was 3 years. He let go of Bates after 1 year (wonder if the 45-3 beating in Knoxville was the impetus for that?). After Bates, he had a string of good ones.

Bottom line, I don’t think making a DC change after this season is too early. The job is more attractive now. Go get it right this time.
 
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GregAmsler said:
So this prompted me to do some research. Is it too early to fire a DC after 2 years? I remember Saban firing Kevin Steele after 1 year at Alabama and promoting Kirby. But since we were doing the Spurrier comps, I looked up his DCs by year:

1990: Jim Bates
1991-93: Ron Zook
1994-95: Bob Pruett
1996-98: Bob Stoops
1999-2001: Jon Hoke

Longest tenure was 3 years. He let go of Bates after 1 year (wonder if the 45-3 beating in Knoxville was the impetus for that?). After Bates, he had a string of good ones.

Bottom line, I don’t think making a DC change after this season is too early. The job is more attractive now. Go get it right this time.
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It’s never too early if there is an upgrade hire to be had.

Kiffin lost Durkin to A&M “because they can pay more”….. i would love to see us throw an offer at Barry Odom at Arkansas and see if we can get him
 
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He might have played the way the coach told him to play. Why risk losing your #2 QB along with the #1? It may well be that since USCe's secondary played our Wrs so tightly, practically smothering them, he had to bring his passes down (as opposed to the high Hooker throws) but it meant putting more heat into them to avoid interceptions. You Milton haters and whiners are just so quick to condemn, if he'd thrown 14 TDs you'd still find fault with him.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
It’s never too early if there is an upgrade hire to be had.

Kiffin lost Durkin to A&M “because they can pay more”….. i would love to see us throw an offer at Barry Odom at Arkansas and see if we can get him
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That would be great by me.

I wonder if a new DC would insist on new assistants?
 
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I love all the QB got takes after we had 63 hung on our defense. Hooker was the QB for a reason. Milton has a lot of physical gifts but when you're down big it's easy to take away the deep ball and force Milton into making short to intermediate progressions, and it's clear there are (and will be) still questions about those areas of his game.

We need some impact playmakers on defense, plural, and a different coaching scheme on that side of the football. Who the QB is going to be in this offense next year is about #5th on the priority list.
 
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Milton could be fire as a qb with better control. His arm strength is incredible which is also his weakness at aim. He has legs too

Nico would have more to learn to start next year. Remember when many of us wanted Harrison Bailey and we see how that worked out

I’m for whoever fits best. New or old.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
10000000% Heupel isn't going to turn over the starting job to a true freshman when he has a former starter who backed up Hooker for 2 seasons and will be 3 offseasons into the install. Milton should have the job guaranteed going into next season. That was the case before Hooker's injury. Now Milton gets to have a jump start at it with a game vs Vandy and the bowl game.
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I was taking to a former Tennessee player and a current coach about Milton. His reply was he has a lot of talent but he looks like he is trying to throw a marshmallow through a brick wall. To be successful, he has to learn how to throw a catchable ball. He has not yet shown he can do that. It looks like he may be the only scholar QB available to play against Vandy. Lets all hope he can lead our offense to a win in Nashville Saturday.
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
I was taking to a former Tennessee player and a current coach about Milton. His reply was he has a lot of talent but he looks like he is trying to throw a marshmallow through a brick wall. To be successful, he has to learn how to throw a catchable ball. He has not yet shown he can do that. It looks like he may be the only scholar QB available to play against Vandy. Lets all hope he can lead our offense to a win in Nashville Saturday.
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He hasn't played meaningful snaps all season. Even last night he came in off the bench cold. There is zero reason to think that if Milton starts vs Vandy, we are getting the same Milton the Starter we had last year.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
He hasn't played meaningful snaps all season. Even last night he came in off the bench cold. There is zero reason to think that if Milton starts vs Vandy, we are getting the same Milton the Starter we had last year.
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History is history until it changes. There is no evidence that history has changed with Milton's passing game. I hope I am wrong, but we will be lucky to beat Vandy Saturday unless he has learned how to throw short passes that can be caught. He looks really good on the 50-60 yard throws but he has yet to throw short balls that can be caught. We will know by Saturday night and I hope we are a winner.
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
History is history until it changes. There is no evidence that history has changed with Milton's passing game. I hope I am wrong, but we will be lucky to beat Vandy Saturday unless he has learned how to throw short passes that can be caught. He looks really good on the 50-60 yard throws but he has yet to throw short balls that can be caught. We will know by Saturday night and I hope we are a winner.
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