Name your most hated ESPN analyst

#152
#152
gainesvol82 said:
Let me know when shooting 68 from the tips actually has anything to do with athletics. Unless I decided to spring from hole to hole it's not a sport. It's so athletic that you have to drive a cart around the course! That's rich!
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Actually in the PGA it is a rule that you have to walk...
 
#154
#154
gainesvol82 said:
Let me know when shooting 68 from the tips actually has anything to do with athletics. Unless I decided to spring from hole to hole it's not a sport. It's so athletic that you have to drive a cart around the course! That's rich!
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what does jumping out of the gym have to do with athletics? without skill it's as worthless as anything else, right?
 
#155
#155
BigPapaVol said:
I'm assuming you have some credentials to merit this. Maybe you have some varsity letters from having played college ball? Maybe hs ball? or are you just talking from a basis of nothing, as per usual?
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I don't gain self worth in boasting my athletic accomplishments on a message board. In fact, I'm not a person who talks a lot of junk. I'll let you talk while I embarass you on the court or the field. I've played sports my entire life and there's one thing that I've always known. The guy who is quick to try and impress you with what he's accomplished athletically is usually lying to compensate for the fact that he is a weak competitor. Nobody I've ever played against who talked a lot backed it up. So keep talking BPV, maybe my respect level for you will reach a new all-time low. Nah, I'll wait for your next sexist WNBA comment for that.
 
#156
#156
truefan said:
agree 100%. Some guys will never get it.
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Some guys will never get it because it's laughable. Phil Mickleson has 30 extra pounds splashing around his gut and looks like he'd have a heart attack if he had to run a mile, yet he's the second-best golfer in the world. Nicklaus was fat back in the day. The sport is so unathletic that Tiger can win a major tournament with a torn ACL, when he could barely walk around and needed a cane. There was a lawsuit a few years ago in which the PGA argued that having to walk the length of a golf course was an "integral part of the competition." Get that -- having to WALK a couple of miles in a couple of hours is an integral part of this "athletic competition" between these supposedly great athletes.

I'm not denying the amazing skill of top golfers, and of course I'd agree that there's an important physiological component to being able to make incredibly precise shots over and over. But that's no more true of top golfers than high-level billiards players, bowlers, dart throwers, archers, horseshoe tossers, shuffleboard players, curlers, pinball players, etc. etc. Are all those guys athletes too? Mind you, I think golf is an order of magnitude more difficult than any of those games, but it has more in common with that list than it does football, basketball, soccer, track and field, etc. Games where you have to do things like run and jump and move fast and break a sweat.

But hey, if shuffleboard were as popular as golf, played by millions and broadcast on TV every weekend, then you'd have guys in here talking about how the top shuffleboard players were great athletes because of the incredible touch the sport takes, etc. Never mind how fat or old the best players were. And it wouldn't make any more sense then.
 
#157
#157
BigPapaVol said:
tell me about Peyton Manning's athleticism. How about Brady? Jim Plunkett? Drew Bledsoe?
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They are infinitely more athletic than a golfer and they are some of the least athletic players in their sport. The most athletic golfer you can come up with is Tiger. This isn't even an argument.
 
#158
#158
gainesvol82 said:
I don't gain self worth in boasting my athletic accomplishments on a message board. In fact, I'm not a person who talks a lot of junk. I'll let you talk while I embarass you on the court or the field. I've played sports my entire life and there's one thing that I've always known. The guy who is quick to try and impress you with what he's accomplished athletically is usually lying to compensate for the fact that he is a weak competitor. Nobody I've ever played against who talked a lot backed it up. So keep talking BPV, maybe my respect level for you will reach a new all-time low. Nah, I'll wait for your next sexist WNBA comment for that.
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I know you're a sports wunderkind, but you heard of Michael Jordan? Maybe Larry Bird? Maybe Raymond Floyd?

My guess is you don't really know very well people who win as a matter of course.

I don't view saying I'm going to beat you as boasting.
 
#160
#160
gainesvol82 said:
I don't gain self worth in boasting my athletic accomplishments on a message board. In fact, I'm not a person who talks a lot of junk. I'll let you talk while I embarass you on the court or the field. I've played sports my entire life and there's one thing that I've always known. The guy who is quick to try and impress you with what he's accomplished athletically is usually lying to compensate for the fact that he is a weak competitor. Nobody I've ever played against who talked a lot backed it up. So keep talking BPV, maybe my respect level for you will reach a new all-time low. Nah, I'll wait for your next sexist WNBA comment for that.
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Oh but you are some one who questions others athletic resume? Or makes smartass comments about another not playing sports? Or say that you think you could beat BPV in any sport he wanted? Oh yea, your the one with the class around here...that's right...we should all learn from you bud...:good!:
 
#161
#161
BigPapaVol said:
what does jumping out of the gym have to do with athletics? without skill it's as worthless as anything else, right?
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A sport requires both athleticism and skill. Golf requires only skill. I will agree that the best golfers are usually the better athletes. In no way is being athletic a requirement to be a professional golfer.
 
#162
#162
gainesvol82 said:
A sport requires both athleticism and skill. Golf requires only skill. I will agree that the best golfers are usually the better athletes. In no way is being athletic a requirement to be a professional golfer.
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What kind of skill is involved in running a marathon? Are you going to say that they are not athletes?
 
#164
#164
Vercingetorix said:
Some guys will never get it because it's laughable. Phil Mickleson has 30 extra pounds splashing around his gut and looks like he'd have a heart attack if he had to run a mile, yet he's the second-best golfer in the world. Nicklaus was fat back in the day. The sport is so unathletic that Tiger can win a major tournament with a torn ACL, when he could barely walk around and needed a cane. There was a lawsuit a few years ago in which the PGA argued that having to walk the length of a golf course was an "integral part of the competition." Get that -- having to WALK a couple of miles in a couple of hours is an integral part of this "athletic competition" between these supposedly great athletes.

I'm not denying the amazing skill of top golfers, and of course I'd agree that there's an important physiological component to being able to make incredibly precise shots over and over. But that's no more true of top golfers than high-level billiards players, bowlers, dart throwers, archers, horseshoe tossers, shuffleboard players, curlers, pinball players, etc. etc. Are all those guys athletes too? Mind you, I think golf is an order of magnitude more difficult than any of those games, but it has more in common with that list than it does football, basketball, soccer, track and field, etc. Games where you have to do things like run and jump and move fast and break a sweat.

But hey, if shuffleboard were as popular as golf, played by millions and broadcast on TV every weekend, then you'd have guys in here talking about how the top shuffleboard players were great athletes because of the incredible touch the sport takes, etc. Never mind how fat or old the best players were. And it wouldn't make any more sense then.
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Entirely different animals. The modern game of golf now demands such driving skill that it changed who can really get it done. Even your boy Phil has changed. The guy who has explosive pop to compete on the tour combined with mental faculty, soft touch and absurd putting can compete. All others can stay home. Generating big clubhead speed has changed the game to a much more athletic endeavor.
 
#165
#165
VOLinthaATL said:
Oh but you are some one who questions others athletic resume? Or makes smartass comments about another not playing sports? Or say that you think you could beat BPV in any sport he wanted? Oh yea, your the one with the class around here...that's right...we should all learn from you bud...:good!:
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Go back and see who started in on who first. You and BPV were the first to start the "I'm better than you game." Just face it. You're wrong. Say it with me now...
 
#167
#167
Vercingetorix said:
Some guys will never get it because it's laughable. Phil Mickleson has 30 extra pounds splashing around his gut and looks like he'd have a heart attack if he had to run a mile, yet he's the second-best golfer in the world. Nicklaus was fat back in the day. The sport is so unathletic that Tiger can win a major tournament with a torn ACL, when he could barely walk around and needed a cane. There was a lawsuit a few years ago in which the PGA argued that having to walk the length of a golf course was an "integral part of the competition." Get that -- having to WALK a couple of miles in a couple of hours is an integral part of this "athletic competition" between these supposedly great athletes.

I'm not denying the amazing skill of top golfers, and of course I'd agree that there's an important physiological component to being able to make incredibly precise shots over and over. But that's no more true of top golfers than high-level billiards players, bowlers, dart throwers, archers, horseshoe tossers, shuffleboard players, curlers, pinball players, etc. etc. Are all those guys athletes too? Mind you, I think golf is an order of magnitude more difficult than any of those games, but it has more in common with that list than it does football, basketball, soccer, track and field, etc. Games where you have to do things like run and jump and move fast and break a sweat.

But hey, if shuffleboard were as popular as golf, played by millions and broadcast on TV every weekend, then you'd have guys in here talking about how the top shuffleboard players were great athletes because of the incredible touch the sport takes, etc. Never mind how fat or old the best players were. And it wouldn't make any more sense then.
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Well said! So well said I bet none of the other side debaters will even touch it. :clap: Not really a golf clap but close enough.
 
#169
#169
gainesvol82 said:
A sport requires both athleticism and skill. Golf requires only skill. I will agree that the best golfers are usually the better athletes. In no way is being athletic a requirement to be a professional golfer.
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you have no idea what you're talking about. It's exactly why women golfers cannot compete with men. In all of the other garbage listed, they can.
 
#173
#173
I didn't see it! jeesh they were only a few minutes a part. Makes sense that you have a crazy ass tom cruise as your avatar.

You guys are not athletes! Get over it and get back to work.
 
#174
#174
TennesseeT said:
I didn't see it! jeesh they were only a few minutes a part. Makes sense that you have a crazy ass tom cruise as your avatar.

You guys are not athletes! Get over it and get back to work.
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Watch out, your bud gainesvol is going to come in here and tell you that he can beat you in any sport you choose...wait for it....wait for it...
 
#175
#175
TennesseeT said:
I didn't see it! jeesh they were only a few minutes a part. Makes sense that you have a crazy ass tom cruise as your avatar.

You guys are not athletes! Get over it and get back to work.
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we're not claiming to be athletes. I'm claiming that PGA tour level golfers are athletes and that I can beat gainesvol at just about anything. Hell, I'm even up for a spelling bee.
 
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