Nebraska, Missouri face ultimatum from Big XII.

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pantone151 said:
Some pundit on rivals radio this morning said Nebraska holds the key to all of this. He said the Big xii could survive if they lost Mizzou, but losing a program like nebraska would ultimately be the demise of the big xii, causing Texas and Oklahoma to look elsewhere.
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Yeah but what if ND agrees to join the Big10 on the condition that the conference only goes to 12? Then Nebraska and Mizzou lose their offers and Nebraska has to stay in Big12. Big10 will wait to hear from ND before deciding whether to take Mizzou and Nebraska.

ND's decision --> Nebraska's decision --> Texas' decision
 
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trust me, the folks on the 40 acres in Austin proper are not waiting on what some Catholics in Indiana do.
 
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TXVOL07 said:
What does ND need that they dont have? I mean really?
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they don't make THAT much money from the nbc deal. the might make more with a ND included Big-10. but if kelly does turn them around they could end up making a lot more than any other school obviously. and ND alumns love the indepedence. unless the new bcs screws them i can't see them joining a conference anytime soon.
 
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I dont see the BCS treating someone like ND, the way they choose to treat teams like TCU and Boise State.
 
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TXVOL07 said:
I dont see the BCS treating someone like ND, the way they choose to treat teams like TCU and Boise State.
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i think the concern is that the pac-10 goes to 16, sec goes to 16, big 10 goes to 16 , and they are left out since you could have the four big conference winners play eachother for a psudo playoff.
 
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But, but, but,.......they're Notre Dame. They've got Touch Down Jesus, and, and, gold helmets,.........and prestige.
 
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TXVOL07 said:
I dont see the BCS treating someone like ND, the way they choose to treat teams like TCU and Boise State.
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...they get in automatically as long as they finish 8 or higher per the current agreement
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TrueOrange said:
ND and texas. Really its whichever one makes the first move.
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Texas isn't moving unless Nebraska goes first. This whole thing is hinging on who the Big 10 invites. If Nebraska does leave for the Big 10 then the dominos will start to fall.
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Reports from Orangebloods (Texas Rivals site) is that Colorado's Board is meeting tonight, and that Nebraska and Colorado will announce they are leaving by Wednesday.

Colorado to the Pac-10 to prevent Baylor from getting their invite, and Nebraska to the Big 10.
 
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JoeKyleVol said:
Reports from Orangebloods (Texas Rivals site) is that Colorado's Board is meeting tonight, and that Nebraska and Colorado will announce they are leaving by Wednesday.

Colorado to the Pac-10 to prevent Baylor from getting their invite, and Nebraska to the Big 10.
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Do Colorado and Nebraska have official offers? Or in recruiting language - are their offers commitable at this point?

If ND told the Big10 tomorrow that it would like to join but only on the condition that the league stops at 12 teams, I'm sure that Big10 would tell Nebraska thanks, but no thanks are would rescind any official or unofficial offer that's out there.

Same with the Pac10 - If it sees the Big10 stopping at 12 rather than definitely pursuing 16, I think they might stop and regroup and see what their best plan is.
 
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sammyjoey said:
Do Colorado and Nebraska have official offers? Or in recruiting language - are their offers commitable at this point?

If ND told the Big10 tomorrow that it would like to join but only on the condition that the league stops at 12 teams, I'm sure that Big10 would tell Nebraska thanks, but no thanks are would rescind any official or unofficial offer that's out there.

Same with the Pac10 - If it sees the Big10 stopping at 12 rather than definitely pursuing 16, I think they might stop and regroup and see what their best plan is.
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I think it's more likely that Notre Dame would join only after the Big Ten has invited Nebraska, Mizzou, and the Big East teams. That would start off the power conference expansions, destroy the Big East (making ND have to find a new home for their other sports), and dissolve the Big 12, making way for Six of the remaining Big 12 teams to go to the Pac-10.

ND would be more afraid of getting left out of the power conferences should expansion occur. The addition of Nebraska and Missouri assures that it will begin.
 
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JoeKyleVol said:
I think it's more likely that Notre Dame would join only after the Big Ten has invited Nebraska, Mizzou, and the Big East teams. That would start off the power conference expansions, destroy the Big East (making ND have to find a new home for their other sports), and dissolve the Big 12, making way for Six of the remaining Big 12 teams to go to the Pac-10.

ND would be more afraid of getting left out of the power conferences should expansion occur. The addition of Nebraska and Missouri assures that it will begin.
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I guess I'm wondering - what if ND is more proactive? ND can either (1) wait for all that to happen and end up in a 16-team Big10 fearing it could be left out altogether or (2) realize that it'll be in the Big10 no matter what and commit sooner rather than later to ensure that the Big10 it joins is a 12-team league rather than a 16-team league.

Of course, if ND doesn't go on the offensive, the scenario you describe will most likely occur and the Big10 will ultimately force ND's hand.
 
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sammyjoey said:
I guess I'm wondering - what if ND is more proactive? ND can either (1) wait for all that to happen and end up in a 16-team Big10 fearing it could be left out altogether or (2) realize that it'll be in the Big10 no matter what and commit sooner rather than later to ensure that the Big10 it joins is a 12-team league rather than a 16-team league.

Of course, if ND doesn't go on the offensive, the scenario you describe will most likely occur and the Big10 will ultimately force ND's hand.
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Yeah, ND officials have said that they wouldn't seek a conference unless their hand was forced. This might just force their hand.
 
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I think you can consider colorado gone. I may end up being wrong, but I just can't ever imagine Baylor getting an invite from anyone. They, like iowa state, with be left behind in the end.
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JoeKyleVol said:
Yeah, ND officials have said that they wouldn't seek a conference unless their hand was forced. This might just force their hand.
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TXVOL07 said:
What does ND need that they dont have? I mean really?
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The scenario said involves the big east.

The only way notre dame would end up in the big 10 is if a loss of teams in the big east causes the conference to fold. The rest of notre dames teams are housed in the big east.

If expansion does destroy the big east, notre dame would have to find a new conference for its other teams. Its felt that in all likelihood, that would lead to them joining the big ten.

Other word seems to say that notre dame is fine with the money it brings in from its independence and tv contract. There doesn't seem to be much of a care on the money side from ND, especially since their current situation allows them a bcs bowl automatically with just a top 8 finish.

Its speculated too that the only way ND would join the big ten without a need would be if the conference agreed to give them a bigger percentage of revenue than the other teams, which would likely piss off teams like ohio state that have been carrying the conference the last few years.
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The Big East won't fold... At worst, they fold in football and stay around with the bazillion other teams they have for all other sports but football. Their basketball probably makes football money.

ND isn't going anywhere. They have all the money they need. It's not the most, but it's more than enough. They get to keep their own TV deal, and they get the sweetest deal in college football.

I think all it takes is Nebraska to say 'yes' to the Big Ten which I can definitely see happening. Missouri and Colorado add to that. The Big XII is the only conference in danger of folding here. I think it will.
 
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milohimself said:
The Big East won't fold... At worst, they fold in football and stay around with the bazillion other teams they have for all other sports but football. Their basketball probably makes football money.

ND isn't going anywhere. They have all the money they need. It's not the most, but it's more than enough. They get to keep their own TV deal, and they get the sweetest deal in college football.

I think all it takes is Nebraska to say 'yes' to the Big Ten which I can definitely see happening. Missouri and Colorado add to that. The Big XII is the only conference in danger of folding here. I think it will.
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I think so too, that's why I don't think the Big Ten will end up getting Notre Dame
 
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ND is like the nuclear power plant that is not Y2K compilant and all the other plants fail because if one is not connected then all the others fall.
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milohimself said:
The Big East won't fold... At worst, they fold in football and stay around with the bazillion other teams they have for all other sports but football. Their basketball probably makes football money.

ND isn't going anywhere. They have all the money they need. It's not the most, but it's more than enough. They get to keep their own TV deal, and they get the sweetest deal in college football.

I think all it takes is Nebraska to say 'yes' to the Big Ten which I can definitely see happening. Missouri and Colorado add to that. The Big XII is the only conference in danger of folding here. I think it will.
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I get what you are saying, but football does and is going to always bring in more revenue than basketball. Even in the Big East.

UCONN checks in as #1 in the conference, primarily aided by the fact that they have the best combination of Football, Basketball, and Women's Basketball (most schools lose money there), however they only check in at #39 among D1 teams in total revenue at just under 55 million.
 
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