Neil Young vs. Joe Rogan

[SamRebel35]

Why is it so hard for people to understand Joe Rogan's role? He is not a word of authority and does not claim to be. Ever. On anything. Literally the only thing he does is have interesting people come to his show and talks to them.

 

[luthervol]

But to be clear, you're "not okay with" that. Those were your words. So are you or are you not "okay with" that?

Okay with what? Fox putting people on their network who intentionally give harmful misinformation.
Of course I'm not okay with it. I wish no one was okay with it. I wish all companies would refuse to place ads on Fox as long as they do that.

 

[Vol8188]

Why is it so hard for people to understand Joe Rogan's role? He is not a word of authority and does not claim to be. Ever. On anything. Literally the only thing he does is have interesting people come to his show and talks to them.

The man has went out of his way to present both sides of the vaccine argument. The amazing thing is that's what they are attempting to crucify him for. For the sign of preventing anything other than the main stream narrative.

 

[utvolpj]

lol....I'm never okay with dangerous misinformation, unless it is the least dangerous of all of the options. Then I really no longer consider it dangerous misinformation.

 

[volglass]

270 Doctors, Scientists Call Out Joe Rogan’s COVID Misinformation

Rogan last year falsely suggested young, healthy people didn’t need to be vaccinated against the disease. He later backpedaled, admitting he was a “******* moron” and “not a respected source of information, even for me.”

Here is an unedited and alphabetical portion of that list of “doctors and scientists”. It includes a podcaster, dentist, and veterinarian. Don’t take HuffPost’s headline as fact, read the letter for yourself.
Brianna Soreth, MA: Clinical Research Coordinator
Bridget Scallen, MS: Editor, Unbiased Science Podcast
Cara Grome, MD: Psychiatrist
Cara L Santa Maria, MS, MA: Psychotherapist, PhD Candidate, Cedars Sinai Medical Center
Carl Nathan, MD: Professor, Weill Cornell Medicine
Carrie Ingersoll-Wood: PhD Candidate, Syracuse University
Cassandre Gousse, BSN, RN: Registered Nurse
Chelsea Matos, MSN, FNP-C: Family Nurse Practitioner
Christian Capitini, MD: Associate Professor, University of Wisconsin-Madison
Christine Garvey, DVM: Associate Veterinarian
Christopher McMillan, PhD: Postdoctoral Fellow, The University of Queensland
Colleen Trecartin-Frost, DMD: Dentist

 

[Vol8188]

Okay with what? Fox putting people on their network who intentionally give harmful misinformation.
Of course I'm not okay with it. I wish no one was okay with it. I wish all companies would refuse to place ads on Fox as long as they do that.

So you believe Joe Rogan should lose advertisers because he has provided both sides of the vaccine argument?

If I'm understanding you, you are not for the government limiting the conversation, but are okay with the public limiting the conversation. Is that a fair representation of your argument?

 

[volglass]

To make it easy for you here is the link to see for yourself. An Open Letter to Spotify

 

[KB5252]

Heh. Mkay.

It's sad that folks demonize Fauci, CDC, NIH and science in general. Pretty much proves that simple minds want simple answers to very complicated subjects, but I digress...

I don't think they are demonizing them as much as they are pointing out the agencies you listed are as much agenda driven as they are science driven.

They are frustrated when they say follow the science when they've been caught pushing agendas at odds with the science. Can't have it both ways or you begin to lose credibility.

 

[C-south]

Okay with what? Fox putting people on their network who intentionally give harmful misinformation.
Of course I'm not okay with it. I wish no one was okay with it. I wish all companies would refuse to place ads on Fox as long as they do that.

How do you feel about Covid “ causing severe illness in 100,000 kids”?

 

[Majors]

Why is it so hard for people to understand Joe Rogan's role? He is not a word of authority and does not claim to be. Ever. On anything. Literally the only thing he does is have interesting people come to his show and talks to them.

Like Howard Stern, Chris Cuomo (just kidding, he got fired) or any host who schedules guest to talk.

 

[Grand Vol]

SEE: Trump circa 2016-2020.

Oh, if course. When all else fails, pull the "But Trump!" card...

 

[luthervol]

So you believe Joe Rogan should lose advertisers because he has provided both sides of the vaccine argument?

If I'm understanding you, you are not for the government limiting the conversation, but are okay with the public limiting the conversation. Is that a fair representation of your argument?

I don't know if he should lose advertisers or not. I've never listened to him. I'm perfectly happy with advertisers pulling their business when they do not approve of the content.

And yes, that is a fair representation, I do not see this as rising to the level that necessitates government intervention.
Hopefully enough people will do the right thing that the government does not need to intervene.

 

[KB5252]

lol....I'm never okay with dangerous misinformation, unless it is the least dangerous of all of the options. Then I really no longer consider it dangerous misinformation.

If you're referring to Fauci here his misinformation spawned distrust of his message. Considering he's the Pandemic point man you can't get much more harmful.

 

[Grand Vol]

hes Oprah for men

Is he giving away cars?

 

[luthervol]

If you're referring to Fauci here his misinformation spawned distrust of his message. Considering he's the Pandemic point man you can't get much more harmful.

I haven't really followed much of what he had to say. I'm guessing he made some missteps along the way.

 

[Vol8188]

I don't know if he should lose advertisers or not. I've never listened to him. I'm perfectly happy with advertisers pulling their business when they do not approve of the content.

And yes, that is a fair representation, I do not see this as rising to the level that necessitates government intervention.
Hopefully enough people will do the right thing that the government does not need to intervene.

And there it is....at the end of the day, despite running and hiding from it for about 5 posts in a roll, Luther admits he does support government determining what is "dangerous misinformation" and preventing actual doctor's from presenting any dissenting views.

 

[luthervol]

Is he giving away cars?

If so, I'm going to start listening.

 

[luthervol]

And there it is....at the end of the day, despite running and hiding from it for about 5 posts in a roll, Luther admits he does support government determining what is "dangerous misinformation" and preventing actual doctor's from presenting any dissenting views.

That's not what I said at all.
lol...You're like the fisherman whose hook is caught on a log who is celebrating because he thinks he caught a big one.
You might want to cut your line and change your bait.

 

[Majors]

I don't know if he should lose advertisers or not. I've never listened to him. I'm perfectly happy with advertisers pulling their business when they do not approve of the content.

And yes, that is a fair representation, I do not see this as rising to the level that necessitates government intervention.
Hopefully enough people will do the right thing that the government does not need to intervene.

Guess Maddow needs to take the same path with all of this false information. Make sure you have some extra pearls to clutch.

"Now we know that the vaccines work well enough that the virus stops with every vaccinated person," Maddow said on her show the evening of March 29, 2021.

"A vaccinated person gets exposed to the virus, the virus does not infect them, the virus cannot then use that person to go anywhere else," she added with a shrug. "It cannot use a vaccinated person as a host to go get more people."

 

[Vol8188]

That's not what I said at all.
lol...You're like the fisherman whose hook is caught on a log who is celebrating because he thinks he caught a big one.
You might want to cut your line and change your bait.

So you're saying- "Hopefully enough people will do the right thing that the government does not need to intervene."

Does not mean "I support government intervention if enough people do not do the right thing"?

Why do you also play games? Simply directly state your views and save us all time.

 

[luthervol]

Guess Maddow needs to take the same path with all of this false information. Make sure you have some extra pearls to clutch.

"Now we know that the vaccines work well enough that the virus stops with every vaccinated person," Maddow said on her show the evening of March 29, 2021.

"A vaccinated person gets exposed to the virus, the virus does not infect them, the virus cannot then use that person to go anywhere else," she added with a shrug. "It cannot use a vaccinated person as a host to go get more people."

What's your point?
She was obviously wrong.
Never once watched her show.

 

[KB5252]

I haven't really followed much of what he had to say. I'm guessing he made some missteps along the way.

If by missteps you mean intentionally misleading the public the answer is yes. He's purposefully mislead the public on at least 3 occasions. I don't trust people that lie to me, especially when they tell me it's for my own good.

 

[Vol8188]

Guess Maddow needs to take the same path with all of this false information. Make sure you have some extra pearls to clutch.

"Now we know that the vaccines work well enough that the virus stops with every vaccinated person," Maddow said on her show the evening of March 29, 2021.

"A vaccinated person gets exposed to the virus, the virus does not infect them, the virus cannot then use that person to go anywhere else," she added with a shrug. "It cannot use a vaccinated person as a host to go get more people."

If she were right wing, every time a vaccinated person died, her misinformation would be blamed. "Radical misinformation from people like Rachel Maddow leads to risky behavior and a false sense of security. How much blood is on her hands?"

 

[C-south]

What's your point?
She was obviously wrong.
Never once watched her show.

Guess “she” didn’t have to worry about being canceled or losing an audience.

 

[luthervol]

So you're saying- "Hopefully enough people will do the right thing that the government does not need to intervene."

Does not mean "I support government intervention if enough people do not do the right thing"?

Why do you also play games? Simply directly state your views and save us all time.

I stated them as directly as possible.
You seem determine to try and get a simple answer to a question that cannot be simply answered.

Yes to both of your questions.