Nico leaving?? [NOPE]

#157
#157
VawlIn said:
D = Heupel not being the coach we thought he was. Having an abysmal OL and WR room in year 4 and potentially having an even worse one on year 5 lands solely on the HC’s inept roster management and play development. How many teams in the transfer portal era have gone 7-5, 10-2, 8-4, and 10-2 and gone into year 5 with almost 0 production returning offensively? A walkon RB and former walkon TE are our top 2 returning skill players this year and there’s a very good chance our best offensive weapon next year is currently a defensive back
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Also seemingly acting with zero sense of urgency in the portal.
 
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VawlIn said:
Marcus Mariota, Trevor Lawerence, Tua Tagoviloa, Jalen Hurts, Bryce Young, Josh Dobbs, Tyler Bray, Justin Herbert, Caleb Williams, Justin Fields, Deshaun Watson, Chris Leak, Tim Tebow, Johnny Manziel, JT Barrett, Jacob Eason, Jake Fromm, and Matt Barkley were all more productive players in either their redshirt/true freshmen years or true sophomore years after playing a small role as true freshmen. Even DJ Lagway is more impressive than him. Stop saying “Nico is a freshman” as if he was in high school this time last year. He started practicing with the team in December of 2022. He’s had a bowl practice, spring ball, an entire offseason, fall camp, a redshirt year while playing mop up duty, another bowl pracice and bowl game, spring practice, an offseason, another fall camp, a full season, and a third year of bowl practice and we’re still wondering how he’s going to be when he steps onto the field next season. Nico was considered “a generational talent” and so far it’s not played out that way. I think it’s safe to say

A: he’s not what we thought he was coming out of HS
B: Josh Heupel isn’t the coach/QB developer we thought he was when we signed Nico
C: a little bit of both
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Nico had better stats this year than any year Dobbs had except his Senior year. Same for Tyler Bray, all but Junior year.

On par with Justin Herbert his first 2 years, and better than his Junior year. Jacob Eason threw for a few more yards, nothing more.

Your hate bias is showing.
 
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I’m more interested Nico’s passing improvement, specifically, accuracy. His accuracy is too inconsistent.

I believe Nico needs to work on more consistent pre-throw ball positioning. When his accuracy is off, it’s usually because his hands drop toward his waist and then he reverts to a wind-up throw, which results in a delayed release or hasty wind up that impedes accuracy.
 
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VawlIn said:
Marcus Mariota, Trevor Lawerence, Tua Tagoviloa, Jalen Hurts, Bryce Young, Josh Dobbs, Tyler Bray, Justin Herbert, Caleb Williams, Justin Fields, Deshaun Watson, Chris Leak, Tim Tebow, Johnny Manziel, JT Barrett, Jacob Eason, Jake Fromm, and Matt Barkley were all more productive players in either their redshirt/true freshmen years or true sophomore years after playing a small role as true freshmen. Even DJ Lagway is more impressive than him. Stop saying “Nico is a freshman” as if he was in high school this time last year. He started practicing with the team in December of 2022. He’s had a bowl practice, spring ball, an entire offseason, fall camp, a redshirt year while playing mop up duty, another bowl pracice and bowl game, spring practice, an offseason, another fall camp, a full season, and a third year of bowl practice and we’re still wondering how he’s going to be when he steps onto the field next season. Nico was considered “a generational talent” and so far it’s not played out that way. I think it’s safe to say

A: he’s not what we thought he was coming out of HS
B: Josh Heupel isn’t the coach/QB developer we thought he was when we signed Nico
C: a little bit of both
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Spoken like an idiot that believes players must live up to his own Timeline of expectations. He has three more years if he cares to use them to determine his ceiling. Guessing Coach has thicker skin and knows how to dismiss such EX-SPURT analysis.

Just hope if he maxes out he does it here and not elsewhere trying to distance himself from self proclaimed experts in public forums. Don’t know how to quantify how low we really are en mass. If he bolts you and your cyber backslapping buddies are on the clock.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I love how a guy who is to get $8m for 4 years of being here is supposed to put out $8m results in his first year here.

The expectations here by some are amazing.
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At this time last year we thought we'd have him for 2 years before he would declare. Meaning he'd be costing over $2.6 million a year. At this rate he's still here 2 more years meaning he's already earned 4 million. Money changes the game, you must perform to earn your pay. That's why you're seeing big qb's transferring with 1 season left, they can come in and make a difference. The portal definitely reduced the amount of patience fans will give coaches and players.
 
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volmoon said:
I’m more interested Nico’s passing improvement, specifically, accuracy. His accuracy is too inconsistent.

I believe Nico needs to work on more consistent pre-throw ball positioning. When his accuracy is off, it’s usually because his hands drop toward his waist and then he reverts to a wind-up throw, which results in a delayed release or hasty wind up that impedes accuracy.
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I think a lot has to do with not being comfortable in the pocket. A lot of factors leading to that in my opinion. Game has not slowed down enough for him, Oline play. I feel like after his first read he has scrambled already on his mind.

Looked like by the last couple of games things started slowing down for him. Hopefully that leads to more confidence next year.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Twitter is a cesspool. Musk took a cesspool and made it a cessocean. It’s garbage.
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Social media in all forms is a cesspool as well. Assumptions, rumors, and misinformation. Not very resalable. CJH as someone said is not sitting on his backside and doing nothing, he is not panic either.

How do we know he didn't tell them to go get another school. These portal transfers are probably based on heart to heart talks.

All speculative of course but there is a plan and we don't know it. Failure is not an option, but it happens. Successful season? We made the playoffs, but laid an egg. Why? No one can answer that question on this board.

Just remember you are never as great as you think you are, but you are not as bad as someone thinks you are as well.
 
#167
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Delmar said:
I think he’d be a lot better if they get some WR’s that can get separation on their routes. Speed kills and we didn’t have enough.
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I agree, it is a team thing; coaching, offensive line, receivers, running backs and quarterback. I like Nico. I think he is all Vol and he has a lot of upside. He does need to take some leadership classes though.
 
#168
#168
maryvillenative said:
Maybe you should look other places. Lots of people reading into his tweets, including my Vol students who isn't a troll.
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..... or you can just read the tweets for yourself, as I have. He isn't really saying much. You can read pretty much whatever you want into them. That's a waste of time when it comes to these guys.

I think it's very unlikely that he transfers for the simple reason that based on his performance in 2024, it's hard to imagine anyone committing to pay him the kind of NIL money that Tennessee already is. If it's a business decision, then staying at Tennessee is the only thing that makes any sense.
 
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VawlIn said:
Marcus Mariota, Trevor Lawerence, Tua Tagoviloa, Jalen Hurts, Bryce Young, Josh Dobbs, Tyler Bray, Justin Herbert, Caleb Williams, Justin Fields, Deshaun Watson, Chris Leak, Tim Tebow, Johnny Manziel, JT Barrett, Jacob Eason, Jake Fromm, and Matt Barkley were all more productive players in either their redshirt/true freshmen years or true sophomore years after playing a small role as true freshmen. Even DJ Lagway is more impressive than him. Stop saying “Nico is a freshman” as if he was in high school this time last year. He started practicing with the team in December of 2022. He’s had a bowl practice, spring ball, an entire offseason, fall camp, a redshirt year while playing mop up duty, another bowl pracice and bowl game, spring practice, an offseason, another fall camp, a full season, and a third year of bowl practice and we’re still wondering how he’s going to be when he steps onto the field next season. Nico was considered “a generational talent” and so far it’s not played out that way. I think it’s safe to say

A: he’s not what we thought he was coming out of HS
B: Josh Heupel isn’t the coach/QB developer we thought he was when we signed Nico
C: a little bit of both
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Mainly A
 
#170
#170
BigALWiLson said:
Here is a fact..... Yall start this shi1t based off a tweet. He hasn't entered the portal. Yet you insinuate the kids a whore or you wish he'd just leave etc and all the other bs. He is 19/20 are you responsible for a pic with an emoji ? He just wrote a damn heartfelt letter to Volnation after the loss. Wtf do you want ? So you wanna tell him not to tweet ? No one even knows what it meant. It could be just what it is a big 0. Maybe he is disappointed Squirrel left without straight out calling him out.
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Exactly. Threads like this are like catnip to the worst trolls, and you can bet that every one of them has checked in here to further display their ignorance - as if any more evidence was needed.

The kid played his ass off until the end, and his post game comments were all about getting better and going to 'war' with his brothers. Hardly the talk of a selfish, greedy kid with one foot out the door, as many on here were happy to make him out based on one vague social media post.

As much as I love talking UT sports with fellow fans, this place has become toxic with pathetic fools who seemingly live to drag everyone into their own miserable existences in the name of being "realistic". Realism involves more than instantly trashing and calling for heads after any loss or player movement. Unfortunately, it is "fans" like this who always seem to feel the most need to share their feelings.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
..... or you can just read the tweets for yourself, as I have. He isn't really saying much. You can read pretty much whatever you want into them. That's a waste of time when it comes to these guys.

I think it's very unlikely that he transfers for the simple reason that based on his performance in 2024, it's hard to imagine anyone committing to pay him the kind of NIL money that Tennessee already is. If it's a business decision, then staying at Tennessee is the only thing that makes any sense.
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Actually I'm hoping they've told him that he will have to compete to keep his starting position. Let's open it up and see what the others in the room are a capable of. We just might end up with another QB1.
 
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VawlIn said:
Hooker was extremely efficient at Virginia Tech, he just wasn’t in an offense that fit his skill set and didn’t have a lot of weapons around him.
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Hendon Hooker College Stats, School, Draft, Gamelog, Splits | College Football at Sports-Reference.com

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Virginia Tech

2019 : 99-162 (61.1%) 1,555 yards 13 TD's 2 Interceptions
2020 : 98-150 (65.3%) 1,339 yards 9 TD's 5 Interceptions

Tennessee

2021 : 206-303 (68.0%) 2,945 yards 31 TD's 3 Interceptions
2022 : 229-329 (69.6%) 3,135 yards 27 TD's 2 Interceptions

Hendon Hooker's numbers skyrocketed at Tennessee. Heupel and Golesh deserve a lot of credit for that development. Hooker was nothing special at Virginia Tech.
 
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#173
#173
Carp said:
I think it's specifically related to all of the offensive pieces hitting the portal and not anything to do with an intent to enter the portal. Hence why there are no offensive weapons in the picture.

Some believe it could be a dig at Squirrel. Others believe it could be a plea to the coaches to find him some weapons.
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Well, he might already be pleased with this years haul of 3 WR, 2 TE, and 1 RB/slot and 1 tough RB to go with the underclass guys already in development.

Bet he has already had his talks with staff and SPYRE. Would of course welcome some portal difference makers.

I am going to consider him a high character guy until he gives me reason not to.
 
#174
#174
At his rate of pay and his rate of production, I bet he stays. I don't blame him, though, for thinking the line needs to help him out more.
 
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#175
Fatman Photos said:
If you don't want to ***** be here JUST LEAVE AND TAKE THE DRAMA WITH YOU. This goes to all of them. This Transfer Portal and NIL has destroyed traditional football.
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My "master of the obvious" take...

Like it or not, it's here to stay at least until the next "great solution" to the problem. You can either adapt and figure out a way to tune out the noise from it or just stop watching.

Boosters, schools, athletic depts. and coaching staffs, that embrace it and learn how to "work the system" will be successful and prosper, ones that don't, not so much.

Life is short and I really want to enjoy it as much as possible. So, I'm going to take the view that it's just a game to be entertained by, not frustrated and pissed off by.

Bottom line, nothing lasts forever, mainly because humans seem to always need to fix stuff whether it's broke or not.

We f*** everything up...... 🙄
 
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