Offense is broken

#79
#79
papatomany said:
2nd in the conference, 9th vs conference opponents only. Nationally 8th, 78th vs conference opponents only (vs best conference, obviously, but still...)
In conference games, we scored 6 less touchdowns that South Carolina: meaning that 3 out of every 4 games, South Carolina got an extra touchdown.

Incidentally, in 8 conference games, we faced 6 of the 7 worst scoring defenses in the conference. It was a disappointing offensive season.
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The caveat here is that a school like North Texas' conference games aren't the same as ours. If we're being fair, take away every teams 4 easiest games, and see where everyone ranks nationally on offense. I would put money on Tennessee's offense still ranking highly.
 
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#80
Imagine if we were 6 & 6 or less, as many on here wish we were, so they could do what they do best when their not taking it from their significant other. We would have about 20 threads like this.
It is good therapy for the ones that need that path.
 
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#81
We gave up 31 pts to Georgia which shows we are vulnerable to be exposed and scored on. We can hold lesser teams down but sometimes if we play a good offense, get our azzes beat down. Osu has a good offense who lost a fluke rivalry game. At night at there place I expect to get their best effort and will take Herculian effort to win.
 
#83
#83
EZE said:
And you are cherry picking. If you do the same thing to any team in the country, their numbers will fall off, too.

If you look at the scores in most SEC games this season, you’ll see a lot of teams scoring in the teens and low-20s. They play defense in this league.

No SEC team averaged 30 points or more per game in conference games. Vols were #9 at 25 per game, but not far off #1 aTm at 29.2.

Yes, there is room to improve, but it is unreasonable to expect anything drastic.
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But Heupel has had drastically better offenses than this. We went a whole month without scoring in the first half. It’s more than “room to improve.” It’s “this was far below the standard of Josh Heupel offenses over the course of his career.”
 
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KTrain said:
Imagine if we were 6 & 6 or less, as many on here wish we were, so they could do what they do best when their not taking it from their significant other. We would have about 20 threads like this.
It is good therapy for the ones that need that path.
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Didn’t Dooley manage top tier offenses with .500 results?

I’d much rather this year’s combination than that.
 
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#86
Brave Volunteer said:
Middle of the league is average, not "pretty damn good". Take away Sampson and we are in the basement in the SEC on offense.
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Ok, Sampson played a large part, the guy runs tough, BUT, you gotta have that offensive line in front of him to get the yards that he did.
 
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#92
Brave Volunteer said:
Nice countermeasure. I thought we were talking about offensive stats, not win loss record. Stay on topic.
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Stats don’t tell the whole story. Bottom
Line is we have scored more than the other team 10 times out of 12. Also my eyes show me our offense is coming around. The OL blocked well against a good Vandy team and Nico is starting to get more comfortable. And the running game has been there all year long. So while your dwelling on stats our running game with Sampson has been steady all year. You can’t cherry pick stats to make your point, well I take that back you did just that. But I don’t have time play look back at stats, I am looking forward to getting a WIN against the Buckeyes. GBO!!!!
 
#94
#94
Power_Sweep_Vol said:
why is there NEVER any deception in the offense? Little to no misdirection, never a trick play...just nothing that says heupel and his staff are clever and imaginative. You probably see 5-6 KC Chiefs plays EVERY WEEK that speak to their imaginative play calling. And yet, there is the bottom line to look at on the alternative side, right? We're in the playoffs, 10-2...But some changes are going to have to be made if we are going to maximize our potential, because who cares if we score 70 against Kent St?
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cause our coach's name isn't Beamer
 
#95
#95
our offense was good enough to win 10 games,... Bama, old piss and beamerball weren't
 
#96
#96
LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
If you didn’t watch the games, I can see how you’d believe that, but good offenses don’t go entire calendar months without scoring a single point in the first half of a game.
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We moved the well in those games. We just turned the ball over or missed FGs.

The stats are the stats. We are 8th nationally in both yards and scoring offense.
 
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EZE said:
And you are cherry picking. If you do the same thing to any team in the country, their numbers will fall off, too.

If you look at the scores in most SEC games this season, you’ll see a lot of teams scoring in the teens and low-20s. They play defense in this league.

No SEC team averaged 30 points or more per game in conference games. Vols were #9 at 25 per game, but not far off #1 aTm at 29.2.

Yes, there is room to improve, but it is unreasonable to expect anything drastic.
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Let's be honest, our passing game has not been top shelf in SEC play. Caveat...it does count that JH manages the games like OK differently b/c of our outstanding defense and Sampson. Ultimately, it's the W's that count and is a team game...so it really doesn't matter what our offense looks or feels like as long as we win. I think most on here didn't expect a 10-2 season, and certainly most thought if we did, then Nico would be heisman candidate w/ all american wide receivers. Nico and WR (and OL at some times) has had some growing pains...but obvious to all that the talent to be next level is there. Nico and WR's coming on at end of season, for sure. Next year should be all gas, no breaks.
 
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#98
VolBallGuy said:
This good offense did.
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Carp said:
We moved the well in those games. We just turned the ball over or missed FGs.

The stats are the stats. We are 8th nationally in both yards and scoring offense.
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If we had probably any other Heupel defense this season, we would have had to have fought to make a bowl. I’m sorry but the offense is mediocre. 25 ppg in SEC play is no better than mediocre. And you can tell it is mediocre because if anyone had predicted us to only score 25 a game in conference play before this season started, you would have called them an idiot.
 
#99
#99
perico said:
I don’t like trolling or flooding each thread with similar answers, but no one can expect 2022 offense every year because we aren’t going to see a player who is so perfect for the offense like Hendon Hooker was. His numbers were insane.
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Here is the FACT that those pushing the "our offense if horrible now" narrative. When compared to 2022, we are much worse in several areas, that much is true. But we also had a QB that was very talented but had already been a multi-year starting QB at a major university. He was MUCH better in year 2 of running the offense, compared to year 1, even with the experience. A little different when compared to a REDSHIRT freshman in his first year actually facing SEC level defenses. Let us see if the game slows down the same way for Nico in year 2.
 
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