Official Brexit Referendum Discussion

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#351
I am just glad the children were here to see that genuine frontier gibberish
 
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#352
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
The Brexit is a microcosm of everything wrong with Western democracy [sic].

First, there was no burning desire for a referendum. About 6 million strongly wanted it to begin with. Less than 10% - I won't call it an insignificant minority but no real momentum at all.

This was all about a power play with the Tory party where the Brit equivalent of Donald Trump has come out the victor. It's faux-democracy at its finest.

Those who voted to Leave were found Googling "What is the EU?" Cornwall voted strongly to Leave and then immediately begged to keep their £60M investment grant from Europe. What actually happened was a vote against the status quo from people who have long been disenfranchised with the political system and rightly so. Once again - INEQUALITY is the only politics that matter in the world right now (well, really since the Agricultural Revolution).

Which brings us to the Left [sic] and Europe itself. Despite a broad coalition of the young, what people call the Left, and half the Tory government no one was able to communicate successfully to the disenfranchised a message of why the EU was important. Which is because the EU is, in the main, an unequal alliance whose only real mission is to privilege German and French bankers and investor classes. Who, by the way, had short-term windfalls betting on the predictable decline in a fiat currency (a practice that would be illegal in any sensible and fair and merit-based government in the world).

Western democracy [sic] is broken (see Trump, Clinton for more details). Inequality is the only politics worth talking about in the world. The Brexit started as an internal power struggle amongst a party that, really, represents no more than 10% of Britain. Nobody actually has any idea what will happen.

The most likely outcome is at least a partial privatization of the NHS - which will be a disaster for Britain. History will trace back to the Brexit and the upcoming Trump victory as the final discrediting of the 1% parties in Western democracies which have ruled since the mid-1970s - much like Russian tanks rolling through Prague discredited the Left to this day.

And then Britain, as it was the center of the Industrial Revolution, will find itself the center of the New Left. Brexit / Trump victory / 50 years of neoliberalism will revitalise and reinvigorate Leftist movements everywhere. The yoke of Stalinism will be gone and forgotten, and the new Left with new ideas will rise. Although the Latin American Leftist movements will actually be the movers and shakers, Britain will find itself once again at the center of a Western revolution.

Of course, it will be too late as we will be beyond 450ppm CO2 - well beyond the point of no return for human timescales - and the world will be doomed to be much poorer, much more crowded, much more brutish, nasty, and short.
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You better end it now since there is no hope for humanity.
 
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allvol123 said:
Evidently, those found voting for Leave, were found googling "what is Brexit."

That is some solid writing on the subject.
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Well it's been pointed out by several posters that if you don't fall in line with the elite masters pushing globalization you're a knuckle dragging imbecile.
 
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tumscalcium said:
What?

Only the ignorant voted to leave.

"Inequality" is used ignorantly, like it usually is among liberals.

Donald Trump will win.

Britain has absolutely destroyed themselves.

A western revolution will take place with Latin America leading the charge.

None of it matters because global warming will destroy the earth anyway.


Man, this post had everything. Hahaha. 5 stars, a must-read.
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The only thing missing was something about Nazism and Little Englanders. Seriously its like he pulled this from a propaganda site for the radical left.
 
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Burhead said:
I'm proud that Britain voted to Leave but that vote may very well end a union that has been together since 1707. It could very well leave just England and Wales as the only remaining partners at the end of day.
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The Northern Irish won't leave. They voted Remain, but the anti-unionist sentiment is not nearly as strong as it is in Scotland.
 
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bamawriter said:
The Northern Irish won't leave. They voted Remain, but the anti-unionist sentiment is not nearly as strong as it is in Scotland.
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We'll see. My biggest post-exit worry is that it will reignite the conflict between the IRA (and splinter IRA groups) & pro-Loyalist paramilitary groups if there is no unification vote.
 
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#367
Fun with statistics - the Internet was a buzz yesterday that "Leavers" believed feminism was a force for ill (and multiculturalism, etc. etc.)

Turns out, the stats were misinterpreted. What was presented was that 75% of leavers felt feminism was a force for ill. What they should have said was 75% of those who felt feminism was a force for ill voted to leave.

In reality only 23% of leavers indicated feminism was a force for ill and 77% indicated it was a force for good.

More of the attempt to paint Leave voters as bigots/racists.

No, 75 Percent of Leave Voters Don?t Believe Feminism is a Force for Ill - Hit & Run : Reason.com
 
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volinbham said:
Fun with statistics - the Internet was a buzz yesterday that "Leavers" believed feminism was a force for ill (and multiculturalism, etc. etc.)

Turns out, the stats were misinterpreted. What was presented was that 75% of leavers felt feminism was a force for ill. What they should have said was 75% of those who felt feminism was a force for ill voted to leave.

In reality only 23% of leavers indicated feminism was a force for ill and 77% indicated it was a force for good.

More of the attempt to paint Leave voters as bigots/racists.

No, 75 Percent of Leave Voters Don?t Believe Feminism is a Force for Ill - Hit & Run : Reason.com
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Oh yeah, that's straight from the liberal playbook. Don't agree? You hate women, gays, everyone not white, etc... No facts.
 
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Burhead said:
I'm proud that Britain voted to Leave but that vote may very well end a union that has been together since 1707. It could very well leave just England and Wales as the only remaining partners at the end of day.
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Northern Ireland
 
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#373
Since the left owns/controls most of mainstream media they will do their best to reverse this exit. Demonizing of the Leave is only getting started..
 
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Madscientistvol said:
Globalization and transnational corporations are the antithesis to nationalism. How the left ended up being bought and paid for by big international business is amazing to me.
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Just for the record, Ronald Reagan is deemed to be the "father of globalization" by many economists far and wide. Furthermore, Pat Buchanan puts blame for the ills caused by globalization squarely on the shoulders of the GOP. So, in reality it was the right who "ended up being bought and paid for by big international business...". And, that is precisely why the Reagan Democrats abandoned the GOP and are no longer a sizable constituency for any Republican candidate, especially for president.
 
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samanderson said:
Just for the record, Ronald Reagan is deemed to be the "father of globalization" by many economists far and wide. Furthermore, Pat Buchanan puts blame for the ills caused by globalization squarely on the shoulders of the GOP. So, in reality it was the right who "ended up being bought and paid for by big international business...". And, that is precisely why the Reagan Democrats abandoned the GOP and are no longer a sizable constituency for any Republican candidate, especially for president.
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Exactly, and what amazes me is how big business managed to get in the pockets of the left too without them ever realizing. Everyone knows the right has an affinity for big business, it's how big business has managed to get the left doing its dirty work too that is truly baffling.
 
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