Official Jon Gruden Thread XLIII

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Vol-in-Bham said:
If we owe Schiano $20 million then she HAD to have known and signed off... Currie didn't just up and go spend millions of university dollars of his own accord. There would be a minimum of 3 signatures on that MOU.
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A memorandum of understanding is not a binding contract. It is the beginning document to which you work towards a contract. Money is only exchanged after a signing of a contract. MOU's are worth as much as the paper and ink that it took to make them
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I thought last night was bad. Today is a day I will never forget nor forgive. I hate John Currie and I hate whoever backed his play on Schiano.

Today is a day that will live in VN infamy. We have been betrayed in the most heinous of ways.

Today we have witnessed the death of the Tennessee Volunteers football program. We will not recover from this. We are now the dregs of the SEC, a once elite program consigned to embarrassment and mockery. From traditional college football royalty, to court jesters.

I'm sorry for the depressing rant, but I am devastated.
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UT PaulVol said:
Guys, we all have to wait and see what happens. We have to wait and see how UT and the AD responds. We have to stop throwing rocks and pointing fingers at the Haslam’s. The truth is... NO ONE ON HERE KNOWS THE TRUTH. People are grasping and looking for someone to blame, and since they’re one of the biggest boosters; people immediately look at them to blame. The same thing happened in 2012.

Don’t believe anyone who’s trying to blow smoke and tell you this was all about a shift in power. That’s outrageous! The exact same claims were stated many times in 2012. When people begin to worry and, moreso, worry about their credibility being questioned, they’ll start trying to pass blame at anything they can.

I’m as frustrated as anyone. Don’t let people fool you. The fact is, we’re all emotionally invested and it’s easier in these times, than ever before, to be tricked into believing frauds. Hence confirmation bias and emotional reasoning.
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Fact. I'm guilty of pointing fingers. But DAMN....I'm tired of sucking and settling for less than mediocre.
 
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BrentwoodVFL said:
Serious question.

I've been off VN several hours so it is impossible to scroll through this thread and find any reference to the latest thoughts on where a Gruden offer stands in all this. Has it been said that he formally turned us down? How did we get from active discussions w Gruden to an MOU with Schiano?

Sorry if this has been covered already, I just can't find it. Terrible day to be a Vol.
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Some may still deny it, but it's almost impossible to believe anything other than that he said no and has no interest in coaching college football. Then things broke down. Looks like Mullen pretty much told the AD he was waiting on a Florida offer. Which he ended up getting. Currie then rushed off like a moron and pulled the Schiano crap without fully vetting him.
 
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After today, I have no faith in this administration it?s got to go. Mississippi state will have a better hire than us.


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Orlando Vol said:
Penn State has? We'll be fine...
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Completely, completely different situation.

Penn State WAS rotten from the inside out and the narrative was exactly that.

Tennessee IS rotten from the inside out, but the narrative being played out is that the fanbase is the cancer, that WE are the ones that made the program rotten.

No coach with any sense would want to be involved with a fanbase viewed as this destructive.
 
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gsb0824 said:
I honestly think that Currie doesn't mind taking licks. I think everyone is behind closed doors trying to save face for the Haslams. They have a lot more to lose than Currie simply losing his job. This whole fiasco could have simply been Haslam telling Davenport and Currie to go hire CGS and don't give them any lip. Of course, Currie could have refused, but the Haslams may have been responsible for his hire in the first place. We don't know who to blame yet.
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Your analysis is prob petty spot on, but f'em, I quit, this has been the biggest media fiasco I have ever seen, no recruit worth his weight in dirt is gonna buy anything we're selling now and 10yrs of this mediocrity plus the next 10yrs isn't gonna change that, I'm done, adios:mf_surrender:
 
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UTVolinExile said:
I have exactly as much as I had when I first said it. Gruden signed. And if someone wants to start discussing in the GRUDEN thread reasons why they think Les Miles is a good option for Tennessee, I reserve the right to suggest that conversation should be had in the appropriate theead not related to Jon Gruden.

It's not like I've been out here calling people frauds or liars or naive fools or any of the other things that I've seen tossed around on this thread today. Just suggesting that discussion of Les Miles' merits be conducted elsewhere.

Cheers right back atcha. :)
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Exile, I’m just confused. How could Dunwoody have went down yet today happen. How do we get Gruden on the dotted lines yet come seconds away from Schiano being our coach? I’m not attacking at all. That event just seemed like a huge rallying point and confirmation and if Currie was was there, how does he walk out with Jon Gruden signed all the while knowing he was signing Schiano?
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
I would dearly love to hear Atlanta Vol explain what he knew as this all played out, and why he believed we were getting a coach we would really appreciate.

Everyone else--Beav, Bubba, Tuesday, everyone else who claimed any inside access at all--I can write off as a troll or attention-seeking liar (or a duped friend of one of those). But I'd really like to hear from Atlanta Vol.
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I agree...regardless of how this all sorts out, I believe Atlanta Vol has the best interests of the program at heart, and he never made any outlandish claims. In fact he initially said he didn't think there was any chance of Gruden being hired, but he later opened the door to that possibility when he heard some rumblings. And I don't know if we are even at the point where he feels like he can address the coaching search, but surely he has an opinion on what happened today...
 
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UTVolinExile said:
I have exactly as much as I had when I first said it. Gruden signed. And if someone wants to start discussing in the GRUDEN thread reasons why they think Les Miles is a good option for Tennessee, I reserve the right to suggest that conversation should be had in the appropriate theead not related to Jon Gruden.

It's not like I've been out here calling people frauds or liars or naive fools or any of the other things that I've seen tossed around on this thread today. Just suggesting that discussion of Les Miles' merits be conducted elsewhere.

Cheers right back atcha. :)
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Quick question for ya. Would Gruden at this point be willing to work under Currie? It would seem that today’s events would be a huge turn-off in terms of his desire to coach at UT with the current administration in place. If I were him, I would be disgusted with UT since we tried to hire someone else after he previously agreed to terms.
 
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tastycar said:
Completely, completely different situation.

Penn State WAS rotten from the inside out and the narrative was exactly that.

Tennessee IS rotten from the inside out, but the narrative being played out is that the fanbase is the cancer, that WE are the ones that made the program rotten.

No coach with any sense would want to be involved with a fanbase viewed as this destructive.
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If distructive means having some moral values than I will take distructive
 
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#4,774
tastycar said:
Completely, completely different situation.

Penn State WAS rotten from the inside out and the narrative was exactly that.

Tennessee IS rotten from the inside out, but the narrative being played out is that the fanbase is the cancer, that WE are the ones that made the program rotten.

No coach with any sense would want to be involved with a fanbase viewed as this destructive.
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Tasty...a bit confused, would love more in-depth perspective on this...on the surface, it's appears fan base is trying to block a future train wreck w Schiavno (spelling).
 
#4,775
#4,775
“This guy has the right idea, he wore the brown pants.”

Summary of the last 24 hours. Chin up fellow Vols although unprecedented we will survive this. Don’t deserve it but will survive none the less. Looking forward to a new staff and getting back to supporting the players and watching their development. Praying for the right HC after appropriate house cleaning (AD). GBO
 
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