Official Jon Gruden Thread XLIII

[EZE]

I fully intend to email Currie and Davenport and as many in the AD's office as possible demanded the removal of both Bev and Currie and ANYONE who signed off on this hire

I did that yesterday.

 

[TNTechVol]

We are Marshall right now. This is our effin plane crash.

That is the most inappropriate comment I've ever seen on this forum...and I've seen a lot.

 

[EZE]

The school would need to disassociate with him, something like that normally happens when a booster is found to have been causing NCAA violations.

Not sure if that would work here, but at this point, the man/family has caused irreparable harm to the university and athletic program, if that's not grounds to disassociate with him I don't know what is.

You don't have to disassociate from them. You just stop listening to them.

 

[5FingerVolPunch]

I see NO path in which this ends well. I cannot believe any top tier coach would step within a mile of UT!

Exactly what I said yesterday. This was a serious black eye and it's not just the AD looking incompetent, the national media outlets are blasting the state and the fans. Listening to ESPN radio this morning and they're blaming it on social media and fans being pissed about the hire and using false info to protest it.

 

[EZE]

Speaking of Money, have you heard or know what Currie was willing to pay this guy???? I heard their was a MOA signed, if true wonder what we offered him?

No, but I would guess it was in the Butch range. We need to go higher.

 

[iamadoc]

Not sure where things go from here. While we might have avoided Schiano and takien the highroad in that respect,serious damage to the Tennessee brand has been done. Like it or not, looking from outside this is a shi* show most coaches would want to avoid. Clearly there was never a deal with Gruden or we wouldn't be where we are with Schiano. There's going to have to be some type of a statement from UT

 

[Booker512]

Haslams like them some Schiano. Clearly.

This is a buddy deal. Pure and simple.

Gruden and Kelly were probably never even contacted. Which is probably why Gruden was dropping hints and leaving the door open all this time. We thought he was trolling. Hell he was trying to wave us down. Then Blackburn comes out and says gruden would be interested in the job if he was offered...alllllll makes sense to me now.

Schiano was Curries guy from day 1. Period.

 

[Sstterry]

SIAP But it looks like Haslam really was behind this Fiasco! He wanted Schiano for the Browns a couple of years ago.....

I have a Deadspin Link, but VN will not let me post it

 

[EZE]

Exactly what I said yesterday. This was a serious black eye and it's not just the AD looking incompetent, the national media outlets are blasting the state and the fans. Listening to ESPN radio this morning and they're blaming it on social media and fans being pissed about the hire and using false info to protest it.

Screw the media. They have done everything in their power to sweep all of that Penn State stuff under the rug. It is sad, really.

 

[IN Jed]

The amount of my life that I have invested in this only to be rewarded with, not Butch 2.0, but something much worse. I can handle 4 or 5 win seasons as it's just a game but I'm truly embarrassed. On the bright side, it can only get better from here, right?

 

[zydane47]

You don't have to disassociate from them. You just stop listening to them.

Ah but there is the problem, so long as he's still tied to the University in some fashion, someone will listen to him.

They will literally have to remove any association with them for UT to be able to move forward and get people in there that won't bow down to an old man with money.

Either that or someone needs to grow a pair and tell the Haslam's to shut up and walk away.

 

[river rat]

Jimmy will still be calling the shots from Leavenworth.

 

[ttocswob]

I posted this Saturday in the game thread. Had to go back 6 pages in the football forum to find it:

"It always looks darkest just before it turns completely black." - Linus Van Pelt

"We have met the enemy, and he is us." - Pogo

"Turn out the lights, the party's over." - Willie Nelson

"I'm afraid she's gone." - Merle Haggard

"We'll always have Paris Tempe." - Bogie


This coach better be Grude (or a reasonable facsimile thereof,) else I'm done. Basketball, maybe?

I had no idea just how dark things could be.

Even at this point, one person can fix this. Jon Gruden. Yes, the man who loves Rocky Top, who never says never to nothing. The man should step up, and volunteer (novel concept) to clean up this mess he is partially responsible for. Or, support/endorse a suitable candidate for HC. Maybe, simply apologize to Vol Nation for misleading the best fanbase in America. I'm waiting...

Else, he can go back to Bristol, and take his little dog Currie with him.

His son probably should consider a transfer.

 

[VolNExile]

Me too. Of all of the options out there, it appears that this is the guy that Currie locked into from the outset. Not Gruden, not Petersen, not Patterson, but freaking Schiano.

Currie clearly is incompetent.

I'll go back farther: Currie kept Butch on weeks after he should have been let go.

If he was such a master planner, he should have had plans in place to replace him early on. The only reason I can think of that he did so was to once again not put anyone in a position of potential power in the future coaching search.

 

[EZE]

Ah but there is the problem, so long as he's still tied to the University in some fashion, someone will listen to him.

They will literally have to remove any association with them for UT to be able to move forward and get people in there that won't bow down to an old man with money.

Either that or someone needs to grow a pair and tell the Haslam's to shut up and walk away.

That is why you need strong leadership.

 

[zartan]

Screw the media. They have done everything in their power to sweep all of that Penn State stuff under the rug. It is sad, really.

Exactly. When was the last time ESPN took the right side on any issue?

 

[Coastypop]

You are right. The coaching search needs to slow way down before it speeds back up. Better to be right than fast.

I hate to say it but we need a search firm to vet these coaches

 

[Silky_Johnson]

Currie needs to be removed immediately. Allowing him to make this hire is simply unacceptable.

 

[5FingerVolPunch]

Screw the media. They have done everything in their power to sweep all of that Penn State stuff under the rug. It is sad, really.

I agree but unfortunately the masses listen to them.

 

[Kurtastrophe]

Serious Question here.... how did Currie talking to Schaino make any sense whatsoever?

And there still has been no statement from the AD or the University! Have they ever talked to Peyton and Fulmer for advice? ( I read somewhere that Peyton and SChaino don't get along very well).

I guess I am just looking for answers....

Fulmer said that he knew less than the fans about this search and you can guarantee that Peyton didn’t sign off on Schiano after what he tried to do to both Manning brothers.

Currie has been operating as a Haslam stealth bomber.

 

[EZE]

I'll go back farther: Currie kept Butch on weeks after he should have been let go.

If he was such a master planner, he should have had plans in place to replace him early on. The only reason I can think of that he did so was to once again not put anyone in a position of potential power in the future coaching search.

You are right. Everybody blasted Hyams and Hubbs for saying that Currie really didn't want to fire Butch. But, looking back on it, it is clear that they are right.

It also is clear that we have the wrong AD.

 

[VolFan4life24]

Man I woke up this morning feeling like I’ve been kicked right square in the nuts. I don’t see any scenario where Gruden comes now. Maybe a slight chance if Blackburn ends up AD, but even then I feel like we’re all about to be highly disappointed. I hate to be all doom and gloom but I think we witnessed the death of TN football this weekend.

Already highly disappointed man, no coach in their right mind would want to step foot in this mess. And as for the recruits you can forget about. We are done stick a fork in us. #TNFootballisdead

 

[Booker512]

I hate to say it but we need a search firm to vet these coaches

We didn’t hire a search firm because there was no search. The haslams and Currie went after Schiano. Pure and simple. I hate to believe it. But it reeks of that right now.

 

[Coastypop]

Not sure where things go from here. While we might have avoided Schiano and takien the highroad in that respect,serious damage to the Tennessee brand has been done. Like it or not, looking from outside this is a shi* show most coaches would want to avoid. Clearly there was never a deal with Gruden or we wouldn't be where we are with Schiano. There's going to have to be some type of a statement from UT

As much as I hate to agree with you, I guess I do....

Who made up the 10m plus 8mil for assistants that was reported by CBS yesterday ??? This needs to be looked into

 

[SobeVol]

I hate to say it but we need a search firm to vet these coaches

Or google