Ok let's say we concede the fact that

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volfan411 said:
I have had to take a new approach to this season and this staff. As I look at it this may be the "best staff in America" for us right now and not the future. I am beginning to wonder if Jones did not look at our current roster and hire a staff full of good recruiters to get the players in here and then evaluate coaching ability after year 2.
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He would be an idiot to purposefully do that. I think he took the guys that he has faith in. I believe that it's yet to be seen whether that faith was misplaced.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
He would be an idiot to purposefully do that. I think he took the guys that he has faith in. I believe that it's yet to be seen whether that faith was misplaced.
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Well the one thing we can all agree on is they can recruit and that alone is our biggest concern at the moment. IMO
 
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Orange_Crush said:
He would be an idiot to purposefully do that. I think he took the guys that he has faith in. I believe that it's yet to be seen whether that faith was misplaced.
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Yes and when I read that post it did not come out the way I wanted it to sound. I do not think he was going to be able and hire a top notch DC when he was hired so he went with who he was comfortable and who he knew could recruit the players he needed. Does that make sense.
 
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volfan411 said:
Yes and when I read that post it did not come out the way I wanted it to sound. I do not think he was going to be able and hire a top notch DC when he was hired so he went with who he was comfortable and who he knew could recruit the players he needed. Does that make sense.
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Oh, I wasn't questioning your intelligence. I apologize for not being clearer.

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Jake said:
There are so many variables involved to just make all these snap judgements. We have to show more patience than expectation. In time, the reality will expose itself...it's just too soon to tell.
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Tennessee has played 10 games thus far year. They are in fact the team that we have seen on the field this year; regardless of how you want to paint it, they are 4 and 6 and have had 3 abysmal losses back to back to back.

And regardless of what you say that is no "snap judgment".
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
The only reason we didn't get curb stomped last year is because we had an offense that could put up points. If this offense played last year it would be the same results. If we had last years offense this year, we may have won two more games.
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In my post I was talking mainly about our defense. Our offense kinda gets a pass THIS year. New offensive scheme, true freshman qb, overrated o-line.Our defense I thought would be a LITTLE better.Going back to a 4-3 which suits our personal better.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Makes sense. I guess it is a "fool me once" response.
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Well you have to admit that there were a plethora of "sunshine pumpers" who contd to back Dooley even in the wake of 2 to 2.5 years of total garbage, who more than frequently lambasted those who dared criticize Dooley even when the criticism was not over the top or unwarranted.

The board is going through a similar situation now as far as on field performance - with any criticism warranted or not, those posters who make such statements are subject to brutal unabated attacks.

Now to give equal time - those who provide critiques often attack the "sunshine pumpers" with the same vigor. There is rarely a happy medium on this board or any college sports chat board.
 
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Jake said:
There are so many variables involved to just make all these snap judgements. We have to show more patience than expectation. In time, the reality will expose itself...it's just too soon to tell.
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Not getting utterly blown out three weeks in a row, and showing consistent improvement from week to week instead of a regression would be nice.
 
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patrick said:
Well you have to admit that there were a plethora of "sunshine pumpers" who contd to back Dooley even in the wake of 2 to 2.5 years of total garbage, who more than frequently lambasted those who dared criticize Dooley even when the criticism was not over the top or unwarranted.

The board is going through a similar situation now as far as on field performance - with any criticism warranted or not, those posters who make such statements are subject to brutal unabated attacks.

Now to give equal time - those who provide critiques often attack the "sunshine pumpers" with the same vigor. There is rarely a happy medium on this board of any college sports chat board.
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Is it better from a tactical standpoint to pump sunshine during the first year of a new coaching staff than to undermine their efforts by being overly critical and withdrawing support in the stands?


I think it benefits our recruiting to show complete support at the beginning even if we have strong doubts about the long term succes of the coaches.

JMO.:hi:


There will be a time later on to pound on the staff if required, we need to be smart about timing.
 
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johndoevol said:
Is it better from a tactical standpoint to pump sunshine during the first year of a new coaching staff than to undermine their efforts by being overly critical and withdrawing support in the stands?


I think it benefits our recruiting to show complete support at the beginning even if we have strong doubts about the long term succes of the coaches.

JMO.:hi:


There will be a time later on to pound on the staff if required, we need to be smart about timing.
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Define overly critical. You mean pointing out that we set an NCAA record? I mean I can see the entire coverage team falling down on one coverage but on every single one? I think Auburn averaged about 40 yards per return. How does that happen?
 
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johndoevol said:
Is it better from a tactical standpoint to pump sunshine during the first year of a new coaching staff than to undermine their efforts by being overly critical and withdrawing support in the stands?


I think it benefits our recruiting to show complete support at the beginning even if we have strong doubts about the long term succes of the coaches.

JMO.:hi:


There will be a time later on to pound on the staff if required, we need to be smart about timing.
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I simply do not agree with giving complete support especially seeing what I see with my own eyes on the field. Staff is doing very well in recruiting but on the field not so much. But that is not to say that anyone should be punted. And I do not think that recruits put a lot of stock into what a bunch fanatics post on chat boards - they are the generation of this tech stuff and they know that cyber world is full or crazies.
 
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Can we everlovin' please stop with the "but Saban won 7 games his first year so CBJ must suck or something"???

Please check their schedule. One team in the top 10 - #3 LSU, 2 top 20 (16 & 20) and 2 top 25 (22 and 25.)

How on earth is CBJ supposed to be held to the same "record-based" standard as Saban when he's played #1, 2, 6, 9, 9, 11, and 19!

How about this instead - how many teams outside the top 19 did Saban lose to his first year. CBJ waaaay out front of him as of now.

AV
PS May he still be so come this Sunday.
 
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patrick said:
Tennessee has played 10 games thus far year. They are in fact the team that we have seen on the field this year; regardless of how you want to paint it, they are 4 and 6 and have had 3 abysmal losses back to back to back.

And regardless of what you say that is no "snap judgment".
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We were picked to go 5-7 before the season we win the next 2 and we prove the experts wrong. A judgement before the end of the season would be a snap judgement.
 
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CJBlaze said:
In my post I was talking mainly about our defense. Our offense kinda gets a pass THIS year. New offensive scheme, true freshman qb, overrated o-line.Our defense I thought would be a LITTLE better.Going back to a 4-3 which suits our personal better.
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you didn't take into account the talent level on the team which is mid to lower level in the SEC.. that is based on lack of development and recruiting the last 5 years
 
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orangeslice13 said:
We were picked to go 5-7 before the season we win the next 2 and we prove the experts wrong. A judgement before the end of the season would be a snap judgement.
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Who said Tennessee was picked to go 5 & 7 in local and natl sports media?
 
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Sandvol said:
comparing Auburn versus Tennessee is comparing apples to oranges. Would you "others" not concede the point that it is OK to expect the team to improve or at least "stay the same" and not regress from game to game like they have done for the last three games? Should we not expect their special teams play to at least continue to get better and not worse as the season progresses?
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Are you serious?
 
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fade route said:
Safe to say that Butch is being given less grace in his first year than Dooley was in his, yet most agree that Butch is or will be a far better coach than Dools. VN is truly bipolar.
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There is no such thing as grace for a football coach. The bottom line for Butch is to have this team ranked again in the Top 25 and relevant by Year 3, being a serious contender for the SEC AND A Top 15 program by Year 4, while showing adequate progress at every point and step along the way in all facets of the program. Anything less is underperforming and should not be tolerated without Butch & Co. being called out by the fans and donors with pressure brought to bear, for whatever changes need to get made to his approach or staff to get back on track with adequate progress. It's way past time that we stop ALL tolerance for the pathetic state of this program. After the crap of Flummo, Kiffin, and Doofus, it's time for ultra accountability from our coaches with no excuses allowed for underperformance.
 
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