Okay I was a bit harsh on Dooley.....

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sjt18 said:
Still waiting on someone to show the math that makes it likely that the '15 class ends up in the top 5 nationally or top 3 or 4 in the SEC.

It won't bother me at all to be wrong. The math just doesn't work the way it looks right now.
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With all due respect sir, the "math" seemed to work out pretty well for the '14 class to finish 5th. I honestly don't see the '15 class having much of a dropoff from the '14 class especially if we add ANOTHER 5* in Tuttle.
 
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sjt18 said:
Waiting to see... Recruiting was admirable the first year, great the second, and currently is tracking to be "average" in the 3rd.

The coaching last fall looked downright bad at times. It wasn't just players lacking physical ability but them not understanding where they should be, failing to play assignments, and not showing evidence of being up on opponent tendencies. My HOPE is that part of last fall was part of a strategy to turn the program around... but until that happens it is wise to wait and see.
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UT is sitting at #7 in the country right now. id say thats better than "average" especially for a team having the last 5 years UT has had. find another team thats been through what weve been through and tell me about thier last 2 classes.

it will change but if DD was still here he'd have 2 or 3 recruits and none of the legacy guys would be here. but wed hear all about his vacation with litte nicki. great
 
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brian.kluever said:
He deserves everything he gets. Treated hard working people around town like second class citizens while being derelict in his own job & left town with a boat load of money for it.
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Derek Doolittle was sent up here to sabotage the Big Orange machine by UGA...........conspiracy!!!!
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You don't know how our class is going to round out either. This is taking star gazing to an extreme. Rivals has Dormady as a 2* and yet he had an offer from Alabama. Richmond and Tuttle are 5* and not just realistic but it looks likely to in Tenn's class.
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^^this^^ if dormandy goes to bama hes an instant 4* but he piked UT so it doesnt matter, leave him a 2*
 
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I use to think people were to hard on Dooley until he was fired and all the stories began to surface from players and coaches. Now I believe he deserves all the harsh criticism he got and is still getting.
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sjt18 said:
How much solace would you feel if you were publicly humiliated and fired and got a 3 year severance at your current salary? Or do you really and truly believe that money in and of itself buys happiness and contentment?
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who publicly humiliated DD? he humiliated himself when he took the job. but i bet hes OK with cashing the checks.

give me the $$ he got to leave and all the morons on message borads can talk about me all they want.
 
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la vol said:
dooley wanted to be his father (nick saban), and hamilton bought into the fantasy. The problem was, dooley is really his mother. He's much better at quipping in front of a camera or playing the room at fundraisers than he is at coaching. Pretty soon, he'll give up on trying to make it as a coach and end up making millions on tv.
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fyp
 
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Ttucke11 said:
Dooley was a pompous know it all, who knew next to nothing about motivational or leadership skills. I almost think he was trolling the fan base for three years. Biggest joke of a hire in UT sports history.
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Wade Houston is close but at least we got his son with him. We got RICHARD with Doolittle.
 
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sjt18 said:
I was just talking about the first season but you are probably right about UCLA.
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I agree about Dooley's first season with the exception of the bowl game. It went south in year two at Kentucky and the wheels came off in year three.
 
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Dooley totally sucked as HFC in all aspects of his job. The only person at UT at the time who could compete for a worst investment award is Hamilton. And, the only folks who owe apologies are those who defended either, unless they were just ignorant and incompetent wrt football knowledge. If the later case applies, an element of self-awareness would help.
 
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DD4ME said:
Sadly I had heard by the middle of his first season that he was a pompous control freak (no pun intended poobah) from someone whose sister worked directly with him. They told me then he was majorly out of balance with his personality and it would end badly. I had a hard time believing it but it sure seems consistent with everything I've heard since.
Dooley did himself 0 favors with fans, alumni, letterman, players, or coaches. In that regard he deserves little sympathy. Whether he was doing it all intentionally or not he was callous to many.
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Ironic user name
 
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Jones is absolutely the best man for this job. I have yet to hear 1 negative word from former players, high school coaches, or boosters about this guy. Everyone raves about him. His recruiting results speak for itself. If this program can be brought back to prominence it will be under the direction of Butch Jones.
 
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smokeyhuntsgators said:
With all due respect sir, the "math" seemed to work out pretty well for the '14 class to finish 5th. I honestly don't see the '15 class having much of a dropoff from the '14 class especially if we add ANOTHER 5* in Tuttle.
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I'm still not sure why you guys are getting all bent out of shape over the math portion of this argument.

The '14 class had over 30 signees. Rivals only counts 25 (I think) against the rankings so within UT's first 25 you had 16 4* and 2 5*. UT will likely sign only 26 this year IIRC. Right now there are only eight 4*. If they keep those guys and one or two get bumped AND they fill the class out with four 4*... then they still probably won't make the top 10. If they get two 5* and two 4* then it will be close.

It isn't being negative. It isn't even say that Jones doesn't have a special eye for talent making this class underrated. It is simply pointing to the fact that the math to get from 22 commits and 3.27 stars to finishing in the top 10 doesn't work out.
 
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