Overrated Bands

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#302
kidbourbon said:
What does "selling out" mean?

I'm pretty sure KOL isn't going to bring in Fergie as a member of the band, if that's what you're getting at.
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I mean they are going to replicate "OBTN" and start using a formula to write hits.

Happens to most artists once they get to a certain level.
 
#304
#304
kev20 said:
I've always kind of wondered the same thing. I remember back when people were pissed at Brandon Boyd and calling them sellouts just because he cut his hair. people are dumb.
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Usually means people get mad that the band is actually successful. Some seem to like it when the band is "underground" and they feel like they are special since they like the band, and that goes away when they get more popular.

This is of course a broad definition; like I think Nickelback is a sellout group. Their older stuff was actually kind of good but their newer stuff is awful.
 
#305
#305
kidbourbon said:
I disagree. I think they're last three albums have been equally strong, just different.
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I hated OBTN. I bought it, listened to it a few times and gave it away. I miss the old stuff back when they didn't know what the hell they were doing.
 
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#306
VolsSportsFan said:
Usually means people get mad that the band is actually successful. Some seem to like it when the band is "underground" and they feel like they are special since they like the band, and that goes away when they get more popular.

This is of course a broad definition; like I think Nickelback is a sellout group. Their older stuff was actually kind of good but their newer stuff is awful.
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Nickleback should be nuked off the planet.
 
#307
#307
VolsSportsFan said:
Usually means people get mad that the band is actually successful. Some seem to like it when the band is "underground" and they feel like they are special since they like the band, and that goes away when they get more popular.

This is of course a broad definition; like I think Nickelback is a sellout group. Their older stuff was actually kind of good but their newer stuff is awful.
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I understand that part of it, but calling someone a sellout because he cut his hair....?
 
#308
#308
Roughneck said:
I hated OBTN. I bought it, listened to it a few times and gave it away. I miss the old stuff back when they didn't know what the hell they were doing.
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I love one song and like 2 or 3, other than that is just average.
 
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#314
rpvol said:
i'm not so sure about that based on lyrics alone not to mention musically. that is for sure a matter of opinion. journey is somewhat of a ballad driven band. PJ's music touches several different types of music. imo that is why they have more hype.

maybe i am biased, because PJ is my favorite but i honestly don't think there is even any comparison between those 2.
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GahLee said:
My thoughts exactly, Journey was decent.

Most people judge Pearl Jam based on what they hear on the radio, their b-sides are better than what most bands could ever produce.
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I like PJ better than Journey but that is not a measure of talent.

The core members of Journey were former members of Santana. I guarantee that in terms of musicianship they are at least at PJ levels of talent. Judging lyrical ability is difficult. The Beatles wrote some pretty simple songs lyrically but they were huge hits because they struck a chord with the public.

In the end, it seems people keep coming back to what they like - to me that is a different metric than over/under rated.
 
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#315
volinbham said:
I like PJ better than Journey but that is not a measure of talent.

The core members of Journey were former members of Santana. I guarantee that in terms of musicianship they are at least at PJ levels of talent. Judging lyrical ability is difficult. The Beatles wrote some pretty simple songs lyrically but they were huge hits because they struck a chord with the public.

In the end, it seems people keep coming back to what they like - to me that is a different metric than over/under rated.
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Technical ability means squat to me, Steve Vai is as good as anyone ever on a guitar but his music is boring.
 
#318
#318
Roughneck said:
Dude......they "sold out" already. Only by they Night was there "sell out" album.
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Why? Because it sold a lot of albums? This line of reasoning could be applied to any band that gets popular.

I reserve the phrase "sold out" for a band like Black Eyed Peas that actually changed its sound for commercial appeal. KOL didn't do that.
 
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#320
kev20 said:
once again, people are dumb
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I always thought the Metallica sellout talk was idiotic. Yes, Load and ReLoad weren't "traditional" Metallica and they aren't my favorite but they do have some good songs on them.

And they are way better than St. Anger.
 
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#321
kidbourbon said:
Why? Because it sold a lot of albums? This line of reasoning could be applied to any band that gets popular.

I reserve the phrase "sold out" for a band like Black Eyed Peas that actually changed its sound for commercial appeal. KOL didn't do that.
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They kinda did.
 
#322
#322
Okay, this thread is officially ridiculous.

What the heck is overrated supposed to mean? We have people arguing about what they like, style, how many albums sold, what venues they play at, etc. Until there is at least some common agreement on metric of what the band has done vs. how much praise it receives then we spinning wheels here.
 
#323
#323
Roughneck said:
Ok lets get back to it.

The Sex Pistols are overrated.

Discuss.
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Vehemently disagree - they influenced so many bands and launched a revolution in music. What they produced in terms of music is somewhat irrelevant to the impact they had on music.

Same goes for Nirvana (to a smaller extent).
 
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#324
VolsSportsFan said:
I always thought the Metallica sellout talk was idiotic. Yes, Load and ReLoad weren't "traditional" Metallica and they aren't my favorite but they do have some good songs on them.

And they are way better than St. Anger.
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Thing about " Load " and " Reload " is that they weren't as good as their previous efforts, I think that everyone can agree on it but they were still better than 90% of what was out then.

Victim of their own success.
 
#325
#325
kidbourbon said:
I reserve the phrase "sold out" for a band like Black Eyed Peas that actually changed its sound for commercial appeal. KOL didn't do that.
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Yes they did. Listen again.

OBTN was made for drunk frat dudes and chicks. OBTN is completely different than Youth and Young Manhood.

I don't care who is successful and who is not. I want them to make as much money as they can, while they can. But you can't deny that they changed there sound.
 
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