Penn State scandal (merged)

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Domestic Silence said:
No one is saying JoePa did the raping, but to act like he couldn't have had a hand in stopping it is absurd.

I don't think some of you understand the power that man has in State College. He IS Penn State.

Sometimes with power comes responsibility, not just privilege.
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It's hindsight I would almost guarantee he had no idea what really happened. He even admitted w hindsight he wishes he would have done more.
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volinreallife said:
All I am saying is that Joe Pa did what was ethically required of him.
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Then you have a sick, twisted sense of ethics. If you think hanging out with a known child rapist for 10 years and allowing him free reign of all the football facilities during that entire time where he raped more children is "doing all that was ethically required", then you should go do some self-reflection. It's not only unethical; it's criminal.
 
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A lot of folks are still posting and commenting that JoPa and the administration at that time did "enough" in their opinion. You are being naive and not looking past the surface on the magnitude of this situation.

This monster has had eight victims (possibly a ninth) bravely step forward and testify against him. Consider this guy, Sandusky, was so bold as to have such lude acts in a largely public facility where McQueary ultimately witnessed these events. He must have felt pretty bullet proof to think he would do something like that in the PSU facility showers where people can come and go. How many events were not reported? What happened to the kids that resisted and angered the monster? How many missing children have been reported in the last 15 years in the area? The average child molester has 107 victims from a recent Boston Univ. study. Consider that... 107 victims on average. How many has this monster molested/hurt since the 2002 event that McQueary witnessed and reported and PSU did NOTHING but take away the guys keys to the facility while just last week the guy was seen on campus and apparently was always around the program.

There's not much else that can be said other than WTF!
 
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This happened a while ago, but it just goes to show that even the Hells Angels have more morals than those at PSU, and some on this board.

A search for the girl began after the mother of the child became concerned. The New York Post reports members of the Hells Angels found Gordon and the girl in a boathouse near the concert stage. The newspaper goes on to say that the Hells Angels “beat Gordon up and held him until police arrived.”

Too bad mcQueary couldn't be more like those Angels in this situation.
 
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DrunkJohnny said:
So Joe Paterno knew in 1998 that Sandusky admitted to groping a child? Yet he allowed him to use his facilities to rape a child in 2002? Is that ethical?
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No. So what your saying is he should of tied him to his hip and made sure he had no interactions with anybody unless supervised?
 
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pl3 said:
Dan Patrick disagrees with you, as do 99% of people outside of the PSU campus.

You hold that line though. You're going to look great when more info comes out.
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:good!:

I doubt even the majority of those rioting on campus even believe in what they are doing. They're just dumbass, bored college kids. "Hey man wanna play edward 40 hands and go tip some cars over?"... "Sure, I don't have class tomorrow!"
 
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Vols520 said:
It's hindsight I would almost guarantee he had no idea what really happened.
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Yes, we've already discussed that and 100% absolutely debunked that little theory. He knew exactly what was going on and admitted it himself. What the Hell else do you want as evidence?
 
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salutethehill said:
NCAA has released a statement. Nothing shocking:

Regarding the ongoing Penn State criminal investigation, the NCAA is actively monitoring developments and assessing appropriate steps moving forward. The NCAA will defer in the immediate term to law enforcement officials since this situation involved alleged crimes. As the facts are established through the justice system, we will determine whether Association bylaws have been violated and act accordingly. To be clear, civil and criminal law will always take precedence over Association rules.



Mark Emmert
President, NCAA
President Emmerts statement on Penn State - NCAA.org
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Wouldn't expect anything else, this matter is not something they would have any rule over.
 
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Dude... Where is my Coach?

Attention, celebrities of Earth: let Ashton Kutcher's mistake (and man, was it a big one) be a lesson to you all—think before you tweet. Or at the very least, have some grasp of knowledge about a topic before sounding off.

Unfortunately for him, Ashton did neither last night, and felt the full rage of the Twitterverse unlike any backlash he's endured before (and people thought that sordid tabloid scandal was bad for his image).

So what caused this avalanche of Twitter hate to flow to the tweeter formerly known as aplusk?

Oh, just a little defense of those at the center of a burgeoning child-abuse sex scandal.

"How do you fire Jo Pa?" Kutcher tweeted last night in a message that has since (along with several others) been deleted from his feed. "#insult #noclass as a hawkeye fan I find it in poor taste."
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"Had no idea, thought it was a football thing," he began, in a series of tweets that has also since been deleted. "Heard Joe was fired, fully recant previous tweet! Didn't have full story. #admitwhenyoumakemistakes"

He then went into more formal apology mode.

"As an advocate in the fight against child sexual exploitation, I could not be more remorseful for all involved in the Penn St. case," he tweeted.

"As of immediately I will stop tweeting until I find a way to properly manage this feed. I feel awful about this error. Won't happen again."
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http://www.eonline.com/news/ashton_kutcher_fumbles_big_time_over_no/274368
 
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volinreallife said:
No. So what your saying is he should of tied him to his hip and made sure he had no interactions with anybody unless supervised?
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Uhm no.

What I'm saying is he should have banned him from using his football facilities when he found out he was a kiddie diddler in 1998. Or is that not ethical?
 
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LawVol13 said:
Then you have a sick, twisted sense of ethics. If you hanging out with a known child rapist for 10 years and allowing him free reign of all the football facilities during that entire time where he raped more children is "doing all that was ethically required", then you should go do some self-reflection. It's not only unethical; it's criminal.
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Ok again he went up the chain of command in 2002 telling what he knew/what was told to him. Now if you can't get it through your head that he did what was ethically required of him then you are ignorant. When Joe Pa tells higher up authorities that clears him. What you should be yelling about is the guy that was told by JP. Also why don't you go after the guy who saw it instead of the public figure?
 
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Vols520 said:
The fact is I am waiting to get more information you mental midget. If more information comes to light on Paterno then I wont defend the guy.
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Did you read the attorney general report? That's all the "light"one needs to make a sound judgement on Paterno.
 
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DrunkJohnny said:
Uhm no.

What I'm saying is he should have banned him from using his football facilities when he found out he was a kiddie diddler in 1998. Or is that not ethical?
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I can agree with that but that is not the case in question. We're talking about 2002. Was what Joe Pa did ethical in that case? Yes in my opinion.
 
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volinreallife said:
Ok again he went up the chain of command in 2002 telling what he knew/what was told to him. Now if you can't get it through your head that he did what was ethically required of him then you are ignorant. When Joe Pa tells higher up authorities that clears him. What you should be yelling about is the guy that was told by JP. Also why don't you go after the guy who saw it instead of the public figure?
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We're going to after all of them, genius. You don't sit back and watch tons of kids get victimized and then try to hide behind, "aww shucks guys, I reported to the AD that I knew wouldn't do anything about it. So, I'm in the clear and it's just too damn bad about those 20-30 10 year old kids that were raped in the facilities while I watched the raper enter said facility to engage in the act." You have very serious problems, my friend.
 
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volinreallife said:
Ok again he went up the chain of command in 2002 telling what he knew/what was told to him. Now if you can't get it through your head that he did what was ethically required of him then you are ignorant. When Joe Pa tells higher up authorities that clears him. What you should be yelling about is the guy that was told by JP. Also why don't you go after the guy who saw it instead of the public figure?
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I'm going to keep asking this question volinrealife. Do you think the seriousness in which Paterno treated the information given to him in any way did justice to the seriousness of the information itself?
 
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volinreallife said:
I can agree with that but that is not the case in question. We're talking about 2002. Was what Joe Pa did ethical in that case? Yes in my opinion.
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2002 doesn't happen in Penn States locker room if JoePa handled his business in 1998. The end.

I'm using 1998, but if I had to wager I 'd guess this was known long before then.
 
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615 Vol said:
Did you read the attorney general report? That's all the "light"one needs to make a sound judgement on Paterno.
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He pretends he doesn't see your messages when you show him facts that completely blow his dumbass comments out of the water.
 
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LawVol13 said:
We're going to after all of them, genius. You don't sit back and watch tons of kids get victimized and then try to hide behind, "aww shucks guys, I reported to the AD that I knew wouldn't do anything about it. So, I'm in the clear and it's just too damn bad about those 20-30 10 year old kids that were raped in the facilities while I watched the raper enter said facility to engage in the act." You have very serious problems, my friend.
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Did he know at the time that he wouldn't do anything about it?

Also did he not tell the person over the police?

Do you know exactly what was told to JP?

Your making it out like I don't care anything about the kids. I think Jerry the Ad, and the guy on the board last night who committed perjury should be thrown in jail.
 
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