Penn State scandal (merged)

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orangesparkles said:
I think that would make the entire situation even worse, but I still don't think the NCAA would have the right to administer the death penalty. I have no idea how state laws govern this sort of thing, though, so maybe the school/program could potentially be shut down by the state government? Hell, they may have the ability to do such a thing now, I don't know. I think this situation is pretty new to everyone.



You have absolutely no way of proving that any hypothetical murders involved any culpability on PSU's part. Just because Penn State officials covered up this scandal does not mean that any crimes tangibly linked to the scandal are able to be pinned on PSU; if Sandusky happened to kill the boy on his own accord and told no one of this, he'd be solely to blame.
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If by turning a blind eye a murder (I'm not saying anyone was killed bc we don't know) did occur then you can bet your bottom dollar PSU will be in court defending their LEADERSHIPS lack of action.
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VolBeef88 said:
If by turning a blind eye a murder (I'm not saying anyone was killed bc we don't know) did occur then you can bet your bottom dollar PSU will be in court defending their LEADERSHIPS lack of action.
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If any murders did occur, we don't know that Penn State "turned a blind eye" to them. Leadership at Penn State did a whole host of horrible things in relation to the Sandusky case that have been documented and proven; let's not baselessly accuse them of everything under the sun.
 
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orangesparkles said:
If any murders did occur, we don't know that Penn State "turned a blind eye" to them. Leadership at Penn State did a whole host of horrible things in relation to the Sandusky case that have been documented and proven; let's not baselessly accuse them of everything under the sun.
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I didn't accuse them of anything of everything under the sun! I was speaking of a hypothetical situation that another poster made.
However it is VERY clear that PSU turned a blind eye to little boys being raped.
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VolBeef88 said:
I didn't accuse them of anything of everything under the sun! I was speaking of a hypothetical situation that another poster made.
However it is VERY clear that PSU turned a blind eye to little boys being raped.
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I'm not sure that's accurate. 4 men in positions of authority were made aware of the situation, but they did more than turn a blind eye in that they confronted the perpetrator, and took pains to keep his actions from becoming known. Protecting a criminal isn't turning a blind eye.
 
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YorkVol said:
What if it was found that he paid someone with is settlement money? He got something like $170k settlement, would the use of PSU money for something like that change your opinion of what should happen to the school?
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An employer can't be held responsible for how someone chooses to spend their paycheck.
 
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TXA&M07 said:
Over/under on # of years that thing remains intact:

Set at 2 and I'll go under
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I would say under but the more you hear about them up there the more you hear cover up and denial. I will take the over because of their need/desire for Joe Pa to be looked at as some great man.
 
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The Ron Mexico said:
Over. Money and football success is more important to the Penn State alumni than morality or common human decency.
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That's a pretty big net, Ron. Unfortunately there are many fans that likely feel that way....and they will find their way in front of the cameras due to the controversy of their stance.

I know several alumni who are ashamed and disappointed by the whole thing. They are not protective of Paterno's legacy at this point.
 
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95 Vol Alum said:
That's a pretty big net, Ron. Unfortunately there are many fans that likely feel that way....and they will find their way in front of the cameras due to the controversy of their stance.

I know several alumni who are ashamed and disappointed by the whole thing. They are not protective of Paterno's legacy at this point.
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I don't know any alumni personally. The intent of my post was to convey "most of their alumni and fanbase". I am drawing this conclusion based on the arrogance and "not my job/fault" attitude of those in positions of power at the University when the story broke.

I fully expect that statue to stand for decades because Joe Paterno helped usher in millions of dollars into the University, and in the end, that is what matters to most Americans. Money.

I hope I'm wrong and you, and the alumni you mention, are right. I desperately hope you are right.
 
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In addition to Ms. Baldwin, Penn State's former outside counsel also is mentioned multiple times.

Wendell Courtney worked for the university from 1980 to 2010, and also represented Jerry Sandusky's charity, The Second Mile, from 2008 to 2011.

He refused to talk to the Freeh investigators on the advice of counsel. He also did not return a phone call seeking comment from the Post-Gazette.

Among the answers the investigators would have sought, the report said, was an "explanation about the legal work he performed on Feb. 11, 2001" -- two days after then graduate assistant Michael McQueary saw Mr. Sandusky sexually abusing a young boy in the football locker room showers.

According to a time sheet attached to the Freeh report as an exhibit, Mr. Courtney billed 2.9 hours on that date for "Conference with G Schultz re reporting of suspected child abuse; Legal research re same; Conference with G Schultz."

There were other references to Mr. Courtney in the report, as well, including an email exchange between him and Mr. Schultz as the grand jury investigation was heating up.

"Baldwin advised the special investigative counsel that, unknown to her at the time, Courtney emailed Schultz on Jan. 10, 2011," the Freeh report said. "In Courtney's email to Schultz he reported that: Baldwin 'called me today to ask what I remembered about JS issue I spoke with you and Tim about circa eight years ago.' In the email Courtney said he told her what he remembered, and added that Baldwin 'did not offer why she was asking, nor did I ask her. Nor did I disclose that you and I chatted about this.' "

Mr. Ledewitz said that in circumstances such as these, former counsel and current counsel are obligated to share everything and cooperate -- again with the idea of working in the best interest of the institution.

"I can't think of any motive for keeping Cynthia in the dark about anything," he said.

Read more: Penn State's general counsel cited for missteps - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
 
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