Penn State scandal (merged)

#576
#576
This is going to go down as one of the biggest scandals ever in college football.
I imagine there will be close to a hundred victims come forward when this is all said and done. He did this for at least 15 years they know of through his "charity." So guessing 5 or 6 a year.
 
#577
#577
BigPapaVol said:
the book reviews are brutal
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all the reviews are negative and from over the weekend except for this one, from September 2005:

Whe you finish this book you wish it was longer. Like a good movie you do not want it to end. It describes a man who has done some great things to help others. How many college football coaches would turn down 3 head coaching opportunities at big-time schools to stay in "Happy Valley". A couple who could not have their own children. Then adopted 6. Not all in infancy. A man who took in foster children and at the same time ran the defense for one of college football's elite teams for 23 years. A kid who never grew up. Yet a person who is so selfless it defies human ego. Everyone reading this should do themselves a moral favor and contribute money to the Second Mile. (...)
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Chillingly sad, and terrifying that a monster like this could be hiding in any community.
 
#578
#578
oklavol said:
This is going to go down as one of the biggest scandals ever in college football.
I imagine there will be close to a hundred victims come forward when this is all said and done. He did this for at least 15 years they know of through his "charity." So guessing 5 or 6 a year.
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That's a very large number. That would make it one of the biggest scandals anytime, not just in football.
 
#579
#579
SamRebel35 said:
That's a very large number. That would make it one of the biggest scandals anytime, not just in football.
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Yeah it probably high number, the indictment has 40 counts against 8 boys. 20 is a better number.
 
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#580
#580
All I see is a bunch of adults protecting their own well being and passing the buck up the line to someone else to keep themselves out of trouble. This includes Curley,Spanier,Schultz,AND Paterno. Good job guys way to brush it off and hope it goes away. No dont call the police ... and dont call DHS... heaven forbid you call the parents... Make sure you do just enough to keep out of trouble.
 
#581
#581
oklavol said:
Yeah it probably high number, the indictment has 40 counts against 8 boys. 20 is a better number.
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9 boys now. The 9th victim came forward today. Who knows how many other that are out there that this monster sexually abused.
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#582
#582
I like how Joe Paterno has his son run out there to talk to the press to run interference for him. Whether this was planned or by accident it his son needs to step aside and let his dad speak for himself. It "looks" cowardly or deceptive.
 
#583
#583
SteveninTenn said:
I like how Joe Paterno has his son run out there to talk to the press to run interference for him. Whether this was planned or by accident it his son needs to step aside and let his dad speak for himself. It "looks" cowardly or deceptive.
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His son, Scott, is a lawyer. Not saying its right or wrong, but that is why he's the one releasing all statements.

I wish Joe Pa would speak as well. Truthfully.
 
#584
#584
I'd tell Joe Paterno you have one game.This Saturday is it. Say good bye, say farewell to the fans, and close the door. Some say he doesnt deserve that but he cant stay on that's for sure. If Bruce Pearl cant survive and Jim Tressel cant survive over just NCAA issues Joe Paterno cant survive over human issues like this.
 
#585
#585
Sandusky was still on campus working out last week and maintained an office on campus even after 1998, 2002, 2008(when he was banned from a highschool over similar allegations)! He still was around even after Paterno,Curley,and everyone went before a grand jury! How can you allow Sandusky to have an office or workout on campus as late as last week after ALL that?
 
#586
#586
SteveninTenn said:
I'd tell Joe Paterno you have one game.This Saturday is it. Say good bye, say farewell to the fans, and close the door. Some say he doesnt deserve that but he cant stay on that's for sure. If Bruce Pearl cant survive and Jim Tressel cant survive over just NCAA issues Joe Paterno cant survive over human issues like this.
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I don't see how they can even allow that.
 
#587
#587
SMH...IMO this might be the last year for Jo Pa and sad this situation is. It surely was time for him to and this being the reason he has to is sad. Disgusting. Untolerable.
 
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G0V0LS33 said:
SMH...IMO this might be the last year for Jo Pa and sad this situation is. It surely was time for him to and this being the reason he has to is sad. Disgusting. Untolerable.
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Might be? My gut says this has been around a while and they were holding it close to let him get the wins record, which is crap.
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#589
#589
For anyone out there that sees or has evidence of child abuse like this CALL THE POLICE AND CALL DHS. If you see someone get robbed you dont call your boss.If you see or have a woman tell you they got raped you dont call anyone but the police. If you see someone get punched out on the street corner again you dont call your buddy or your boss first you call the police. If anyone hears about some abuse like Paterno did or witnesses it like McQuarry CALL THE POLICE and try to stop it IMMEDIATELY!!!! Dont call your boss and figure that's all you have to do.
 
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#590
#590
Just seen on ESPN that the papers and news people in New York are saying that in a matter of days he will end his career as coach at Penn State. I know this is not relevant but where do you think they go look for a new coach?
 
#591
#591
G0V0LS33 said:
Just seen on ESPN that the papers and news people in New York are saying that in a matter of days he will end his career as coach at Penn State. I know this is not relevant but where do you think they go look for a new coach?
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No one with clout will touch that program. They are about to go through one hell of a dark period for the forseeable future.
 
#592
#592
MTSUDaff said:
No one with clout will touch that program. They are about to go through one hell of a dark period for the forseeable future.
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Don't want to make light of the situation in any way, but the NCAA won't do anything.

While it'll be bad for the school's name, if they totally clean house, I think they can still win there even next year.
 
#593
#593
zjcvols said:
Don't want to make light of the situation in any way, but the NCAA won't do anything.

While it'll be bad for the school's name, if they totally clean house, I think they can still win there even next year.
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I think he's talking the lawsuits and the image the school will have. I don't think there is anyway they win anytime soon, unless they can do it with walk-ons very soon. The wind has to be out of that program mentally for some time to come. No way this is forgotten anytime soon.
 
#594
#594
zjcvols said:
Don't want to make light of the situation in any way, but the NCAA won't do anything.

While it'll be bad for the school's name, if they totally clean house, I think they can still win there even next year.
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Next year? Maybe. If there is not a mass exodus of players. Three years from now, after not being able to recruit through the stigma of the PSU scandal, the dark ages will begin.
 
#595
#595
What are the odds that the guy that busted Sandusky is named McQUEERy!?!
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#596
#596
zjcvols said:
Don't want to make light of the situation in any way, but the NCAA won't do anything.

While it'll be bad for the school's name, if they totally clean house, I think they can still win there even next year.
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You're kidding yourself zjc. Their recruiting class is just going to get nuked. No coach worth a damn is going to go near that place; it's radioactive.
 
#597
#597
SamRebel35 said:
Next year? Maybe. If there is not a mass exodus of players. Three years from now, after not being able to recruit through the stigma of the PSU scandal, the dark ages will begin.
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If they completely clean house, then I honestly think it won't be that bad. The coach can say "Look, all the former coaching staff is gone, the AD is gone, the President is gone, everyone involved in the situation is gone" I think recruits will listen. JMO.
 
#598
#598
LawVol13 said:
You're kidding yourself zjc. Their recruiting class is just going to get nuked. No coach worth a damn is going to go near that place; it's radioactive.
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In the next three years, if they completely clean house? No, I don't think so. It's not going to be a completely easy job, but still won't be "radioactive"
 
#599
#599
BigPapaVol said:
Might be? My gut says this has been around a while and they were holding it close to let him get the wins record, which is crap.
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Your gut and mine agree. No way this will ever get admitted, though.
 
#600
#600
rjd970 said:
Your gut and mine agree. No way this will ever get admitted, though.
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This had not even crossed my mind until now. Wow, I'm dense. If this is true, though, that just makes it even more disturbing (as if possible).
 
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