Petrino on the UT Game

#78
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sjt18 said:
IOW's.... unless Jones is out-coached?
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Yes, out coached. unless the Vols come in unprepared they will not lose. I won't call a margin of victory but Tennessee should win the game convincingly. Not easily, but convincingly.
 
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JonGrudensAgent said:
While I agree with the overall sentiment, I believe Dooley stepped into a better situation than Jones.

Dooley had senior WR in Jones and Moore to go along with Hunter and Rogers coming in.

He also had a more proven defense in the secondary and the defensive line. Lathers and Reviez also provided some leadership at LB. Not saying they are any better but depth and experience wise, the starting lineup in 2010 was better.

Jones will have been well worth the money for this year if he puts up a 7 win regular season.
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Saying Dooley stepped into a better situation is ludicrous. Do you remember the offensive line? Do you remember the defensive line? Rogers and Hunter were unproven. No qb on the roster had any experience except Stevens, and he transferred before the season started. Dooley stepped into An awful situation. Jones is in a much better position to succeed.
 
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KingtUT said:
First time ever writing this..........GTFO!
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I probably should just start cutting and pasting when the same ol' crap is presented by those excusing Jones for potentially winning less than six games.

Keeps coming up... I keep answering it. Hopefully I will get around to everyone eventually. :loco:
 
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1974Vol said:
Yes, out coached. unless the Vols come in unprepared they will not lose. I won't call a margin of victory but Tennessee should win the game convincingly. Not easily, but convincingly.
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I am sticking with what I said. If Jones coaches a good game then UT wins by 20+.
 
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sjt18 said:
I am NOT comparing apples to oranges. You won't find many more apples to apples comparisons in CFB than the one between Jones' opportunity in '13 compared to Dooley's in '10. The schedules are similar. Jones inherits a better situation and appears to be a better coach. He certainly has a better resume coming in.

Too much roster turnover and lack of continuity? That was much worse 3 years ago too. The ONLY quality OL Dooley inherited bolted. Kiffin had just the year before performed a roster purge of guys he didn't want to go forward with who might have contributed for another coach. Talented players were still being lost to off the field problems.

Fulmer had just recently been fired after letting program discipline descend into the lower regions of hades. He had virtually lost the ability to recruit players with talent who could stay eligible in the numbers needed to sustain an even mid-level SEC program.


You are either vastly overestimating the problems Jones has inherited or vastly underestimating how bad the program was 3 and 4 years ago.

Yes. The right coach will make a difference right away. It takes talent to go from the bottom to the top. It takes depth of talent. UT lacks the second for sure. But to go from 5 wins to 7 is VERY MUCH within the range of difference a good coach can make over a bad one.
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But what's the price to tea in China?

Nothing on this team is proven, except for a middle linebacker, one safety, the offensive line, and maybe one DT.

If you wanted to replay one of the previous three seasons and insert Butch as the HC, I think you'd see better results. But the truth is that this is a different team with a different schedule. To make a blanket statement by saying Butch should win at least seven games because Dooley won six his first season is ridiculous.
 
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sjt18 said:
I probably should just start cutting and pasting when the same ol' crap is presented by those excusing Jones for potentially winning less than six games.

Keeps coming up... I keep answering it. Hopefully I will get around to everyone eventually. :loco:
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I don't think 6 wins is going to be an issue. However, this game is close enough that a turnover or two in the wrong area could cost us the game. Hard to coach holding on to the ball when it's hit just right. We win by 17 but if we don't I'm not ready to hang butch just yet.
 
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Each football season has its own ebb and flow. So predicting the wins and loses for a season after one game is just a guessing game. What if Oregon turns it over 7 times and we win a close one? What if Auburn turns out to be a BCS caliber team? What if Georgia loses to USCe and implodes? What if USCe looks by the Vols and Worley has a career night? What if Worley goes down? What if Kentucky sucks?...wait :p Anyway you get the point. USCw was preseason No. 1 and went 7-6 last year. Florida was projected to win 6-7 games and went 11-1. If nothing much changes the Vols should win 6-7 games. But what are the chances of nothing much changing?:loco:
 
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Biopsyman said:
Doubtful... Our fr corner may have a long afternoon..
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A good coach will scheme help to him... and will correct his issues. Sutton if coached right will become less and less of a Fr every week. In case you had not noticed... he isn't the only Fr starting at CB for an SEC program. This is NOT a problem unique to UT's coaching staff.
 
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Biopsyman said:
Doubtful... Our fr corner may have a long afternoon..
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I think he grew up some last week. The kid has talent and if you got talent CB is one of the easier positions to learn. He'll get beat some but he'll also get us several INT's over the course of the season. He's a pick six in the making:rock:
 
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YorkVol said:
I've said this before that if our boys are looking ahead to Oregon and take WKU lightly, then they could be in for a hard lesson. However, if they come to play football, then I'm not worried about a guy who averaged less than 5 ypc against Kentucky.
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Actually, they've been looking ahead to the WKU game for months now.:)
 
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KingtUT said:
I don't think 6 wins is going to be an issue. However, this game is close enough that a turnover or two in the wrong area could cost us the game. Hard to coach holding on to the ball when it's hit just right. We win by 17 but if we don't I'm not ready to hang butch just yet.
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He gets 3 years and I will support him every moment. My confidence simply won't be very high concerning his ability or survival if he wins six or less this year.

Fumbles happen but coaches have the ability to coach ball security. That looked good except for Hill.
 
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1974Vol said:
Outside Vol Nation people think its a 2 TD game. So you think its closer than that? :ermm:
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I do. I think the drop off in the secondary from our 1s to 2s is scary and Petrino knows how to exploit that. Keep in mind, his recruiting classes are Arky were full of 3* talent, and he went 10-3 and 11-2 in his last two years there. He knows how to get more out of less better than anybody. I mean, if we're playing walk ons on our secondary, how much worse can you get?? Don't think we'll lose, but I bet its closer than most think.
 
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fade route said:
I do. I think the drop off in the secondary from our 1s to 2s is scary and Petrino knows how to exploit that. Keep in mind, his recruiting classes are Arky were full of 3* talent, and he went 10-3 and 11-2 in his last two years there. He knows how to get more out of less better than anybody. I mean, if we're playing walk ons on our secondary, how much worse can you get?? Don't think we'll lose, but I bet its closer than most think.
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WKU was 18-28 for 203 yards passing against KY. Not exactly overwhelming against a not so good KY team. Did not see the game but what I heard was they most threw short underneath stuff and KY had trouble tackling. Maybe they open up against Vols?
 
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VolDave53 said:
Poorly? He was triple teamed most of his limited time in the game. Dan is a 3 down guy, and he only had 4 plays before the score was 14-0, 7 plays before it was 21-0 and 11 plays the first quarter. AP moved the ball well when he sat in the 2nd quarter as evinced by their drive to a FG attempt. He was inserted when they were at the 14 and he pressured the QB every time. His total number of plays for the 2nd quarter was only 7, and for the game, 18.

After the first play, AP did not run the ball anywhere near him. He also never saw action the second half.

He makes the rest of the team better by freeing them up. Several plays, against the spread, he was the lone interior lineman and he was enough. Dan played well.

I think many of those concerned about the Worley performance may be confusing some of Peterman's throws with Worley. 3 throws were not dead on, and only 2 misses. Not bad. Peterman was throwing behind the receiver most of the time.

Just my .02 worth after watching the replay closely.
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the recievers made a couple of good catches or it would have been more incompletions. if he was "on the money" with a few more throws, hes got 5 tds. especially the one to north that was short and behind him. do that agaisnt descent teams were in trouble. some of pertermans throws were terrible. worley is servicable but not great. imo

i will say UT's offense couldnt have been more vanilla
 
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I fully expect to win this game by at least 2 TDs. Somewhat of a game for the first half, then we pull away. Even with our lack of experience at CB, I refuse to believe Petrino can give us major fits for the entire game.
 
#98
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We may not get another shutout this weekend, but we will apply more defensive line pressure than UK did last week. Our offense will also put more points on the board than UK did last week.
This is not a good UK team by any stretch of the imagination.
This game may be close for a quarter, but UT should create separation by halftime.
 
#99
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If Petrino wins this game, then he should have been the coach we hired. With that said, I believe Butch Jones and company get it done!
 
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1974Vol said:
WKU was 18-28 for 203 yards passing against KY. Not exactly overwhelming against a not so good KY team. Did not see the game but what I heard was they most threw short underneath stuff and KY had trouble tackling. Maybe they open up against Vols?
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I watched some of the game. It wasn't a case where WKU looked impressive, it was that UK looked terrible.
 
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