Pig Howard?

[sjt18]

He hasn't even started a game yet. I'm willing to bet if we have the same Qb play like we did last year he won't go over 390

If UT gets EXACTLY the same level of QB play they got last year from Dobbs or Worley then UT will make a considerable step forward. MOST of the problem was WR's and TE's. But I expect the starter to have made some improvement, don't you? One more year of maturity. One more year of studying and learning the O system. Another year with some of the WR's (pretty much all who were there last fall).

 

[dcm3w]

Why is everyone knocking Pig? Why wouldn't you want him on the field? Arguably one of the most explosive guys on the field last year...and we've been lacking that for a while. More the merrier. Get a grip on your life people and stop bashing him.

 

[Ttucke11]

Not sure why your hating on a kid who has personal issues either. Its not weed nor any other drug.

I'm not hating. Said it would be nice to have him back, but if I HAD to pick between he and Pearson in the slot I'd pick Pearson every single time. Bigger, faster, stronger, and better hands. He would be in the rotation for sure, but Pig wouldn't start for this team.

 

[chattavol420]

Pig likes to...

So do lots of other people who lead successful lives such as doctors and Lawyers. They just aren't forced to piss in a cup. What a violation of privacy. Pot isn't a performance enhancer. It totally sucks for these kids. But the old white ignorant conservatives make the rules and we all have to play by them.

 

[VolAllen]

So do lots of other people who lead successful lives such as doctors and Lawyers. The Just aren't forced to piss in a cup. What a violation of privacy. Pot isn't a performance enhancer. Just sucks for these kids. But the old white ignorant conservatives make the rules and we all have to play by them.

i.

 

[KBVol]

Why is everyone knocking Pig? Why wouldn't you want him on the field? Arguably one of the most explosive guys on the field last year...and we've been lacking that for a while. More the merrier. Get a grip on your life people and stop bashing him.

Who's saying they don't want him on the field? I haven't seen that. We all wish him well and hope he makes it back. The debate is who's the more talented player between him and Von Pearson....I don't think it's particularly close. Pearson's gonna start at slot whether Pig comes back or not. I'd love to have Pig come back and join the slot rotation, but I don't think he's start ahead of Von at this point....maybe if he'd not had the issues and played in the Spring....but not now.

 

[1982Alum]

If you played for this university and rep the T unconditionally, your a VFL. It Means u bleed orange at your heart. This young man bleeds orange at his heart, that's all we know. Other details are for him and coach to know.

Laughable really. So anyone who plays and doesn't embarrass the university is a VFL? OK. Seems quite vague actually but to each his own.

 

[1982Alum]

That's dumb logic. We all like to poke fun at ol Jim Bob but at the same time I doubt there are many here that don't consider him a VFL. Without stats at all he still contributed to the program. Pig has done more than enough for me to consider him a VFL...

And Nu-Keese Richardson and LaMarcus Coker and Jamal Lewis and Aaron Douglas too I guess, huh? All had great games once or twice at UT. For year or two.........Just overlook the fact they were out of control wild men too and in some cases drug thugs for a moment and just remember they had a great game or two at UT. That gets them in the club I guess.

Laughable.

 

[vollygirl]

Laughable really. So anyone who plays and doesn't embarrass the university is a VFL? OK. Seems quite vague actually but to each his own.

What do you think a VFL is exactly?

 

[1982Alum]

VFL status is given, not earned, imo. And it isn't posters on a message board that have it to offer our current and former players.

Oh really? Not earned, hmmmmmmm. And when are the awards "given" out? Who are the "givers"? Is it like the Oscars ceremony in LA each year?

 

[vollygirl]

Oh really? Not earned, hmmmmmmm. And when are the awards "given" out? Who are the "givers"? Is it like the Oscars ceremony in LA each year?

"awards" was your word, not mine. That's not what it's about, at all.

 

[1982Alum]

What do you think a VFL is exactly?

VFLs? The best of the best. The pillars of the UT program. We know the names:

Manning
White
Berry
Al Wilson
Cafego
Majors

...continue

Those that distinquish themselves on AND off the field for a life time (Vol for Life!). A good Georgia game by Howard is not quite cutting it into the VFL ranks in my opinion.

 

[Freak]

As I've posted before the true meaning of VFL is a program started in 2010 to help prepare student athletes for life after college.

“The four-year VFL curriculum focuses on the often-overlooked personal growth of the student-athlete, encompassing the following topics: character education, personal finance, life skills, career development, spiritual growth, community service, mental conditioning, personal branding and navigating the social media landscape.”

Maybe you guys are talking about something different? If so, I don't think there's an official definition. It probably means different things to different people.

 

[vollygirl]

VFLs? The best of the best. The pillars of the UT program. We know the names:

Manning
White
Berry
Al Wilson
Cafego
Majors

...continue

Those that distinquish themselves on AND off the field for a life time (Vol for Life!). A good Georgia game by Howard is not quite cutting it into the VFL ranks in my opinion.

As I've posted before the true meaning of VFL is a program started in 2010 to help prepare student athletes for life after college.



Maybe you guys are talking about something different? If so, I don't think there's an official definition. It probably means different things to different people.

Clearly.

 

[Freak]

Clearly.

Point is, unless you've found an official definition somewhere, it means different things to different people. That said, I think the decision to designate oneself as a VFL is up to the athlete not the fan. Jmo.

 

[CANNONVOLRUN]

As I've posted before the true meaning of VFL is a program started in 2010 to help prepare student athletes for life after college.



Maybe you guys are talking about something different? If so, I don't think there's an official definition. It probably means different things to different people.

True to its origin Freak but the VFL program seems to have taken a life of its own...

 

[vollygirl]

True to its origin Freak but the VFL program seems to have taken a life of its own...

It has definitely evolved.

 

[1982Alum]

Point is it means different things to different people. That said, I think the decision to designate oneself as a VFL is up to the athlete not the fan. Jmo.

I agree it should be their decision but as you noted earlier it's a 4 year commitment with values that are intended to carry on for a lifetime.

One game and/or one year and out (or two years) falls woefully short I feel.

 

[Freak]

True to its origin Freak but the VFL program seems to have taken a life of its own...

No doubt about it. And that's where I was going with my point (or attempting to anyway). There's obviously a lot of disagreement on what it means. Bruce Pearl said he's a VFL recently and he's at Auburn now. Is that allowable?

We can't even agree on the definition of a true fan around here, let alone VFL.

 

[YorkVol]

VFLs? The best of the best. The pillars of the UT program. We know the names:

Manning
White
Berry
Al Wilson
Cafego
Majors

...continue

Those that distinquish themselves on AND off the field for a life time (Vol for Life!). A good Georgia game by Howard is not quite cutting it into the VFL ranks in my opinion.

Tony Robinson?

 

[Freak]

I agree it should be their decision but as you noted earlier it's a 4 year commitment with values that are intended to carry on for a lifetime.

One game and/or one year and out (or two years) falls woefully short I feel.

I can see your point. But I'm not sure I agree that a fourth year "graduation" is required. What about guys who aren't here for four years like Jarnell Stokes?

Guys you are naming are Tennessee legends. I think VFL is a much more inclusive designation. Jmo.

 

[1982Alum]

I can see your point. But I'm not sure I agree that a fourth year "graduation" is required. What about guys who aren't here for four years like Jarnell Stokes?

I think it depends on whether he takes the VFL values and applies them to his life as he goes pro. Where is he in 5 years? A man to be proud of or a guy who gets caught up in the rush of NBA riches. Don't think you can say today, their actions will speak for them after their UT playing days.

Tony Robinson? Not a VFL in my opinion. Getting caught in the drug trade is not a pillar in the VFL value system. Great athlete but a failure as a VFL (if they had that designation back then).

 

[Freak]

I think it depends on whether he takes the VFL values and applies them to his life as he goes pro. Where is he in 5 years? A man to be proud of or a guy who gets caught up in the rush of NBA riches. Don't think you can say today, their actions will speak for them after their UT playing days.

Tony Robinson? Not a VFL in my opinion. Getting caught in the drug trade is not a pillar in the VFL value system. Great athlete but a failure as a VFL (if they had that designation back then).

So by your definition, a VFL would be required to be older in years or maybe even have passed away so their full life can be reviewed? I think attempting to judge morals into the designation is a losing proposition. Everyone stumbles at times in life. JMO.

 

[1982Alum]

So by your definition, a VFL would be required to be older in years or maybe even have passed away so their full life can be reviewed? I think attempting to judge morals into the designation is a losing proposition. Everyone stumbles at times in life. JMO.

Older than college age? Yes. Old and dead? No. Not trying to judge morals but judging actions. Can't read a man's mind but you can read a lot into his actions.

 

[Freak]

Older than college age? Yes. Old and dead? No. Not trying to judge morals but judging actions. Can't read a man's mind but you can read a lot into his actions.

One problem I see with that definition is the only actions you'll know about are the ones you read. How can you designate the guys who beat their wife and kids but it never leaves the house?

Anyway, just food for thought.