Police shooting black man in the back ... again (Kenosha, WI)

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DancingOutlaw said:
If my choice is die or "commit murder", I'm going murder.
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Fair enough.

That doesn't mean that you are immune from being charged with murder, and possibly convicted, if it's found that you didn't act in self-defense as it is understood according to state law.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I would almost swear that hurricane insurance is only provided by Fed or State underwriters since they are the only ones willing to assume the risk? I thought it was Feds.
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There are FAIR plans that cover coastal properties, but they dole out the risk to participating companies. From my days working for a company, I assure you that insurance companies get kicked in the teeth when a hurricane rolls through.
 
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GAVol said:
There are FAIR plans that cover coastal properties, but they dole out the risk to participating companies. From my days working for a company, I assure you that insurance companies get kicked in the teeth when a hurricane rolls through.
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In hurricane prone areas don't you have to have flood and wind insurance separate from your regular homeowners?
 
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GAVol said:
There are FAIR plans that cover coastal properties, but they dole out the risk to participating companies. From my days working for a company, I assure you that insurance companies get kicked in the teeth when a hurricane rolls through.
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Fair enough. Just remember reading an article a while back on hurricane specific risk and I thought the Feds were heavily involved. I can’t even claim Holiday Inn Express last night level knowledge on it.
 
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GAVol said:
There are FAIR plans that cover coastal properties, but they dole out the risk to participating companies. From my days working for a company, I assure you that insurance companies get kicked in the teeth when a hurricane rolls through.
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They sure as hell kick back though when premium time rolls around. Has an insurance company ever gone broke?
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Yeah, I know, but the basic ISO commercial property coverage form includes riot and civil commotion. I’ve been in commercial insurance since 2004 and have yet to see a policy exclude it. Maybe it’s a geographic issue.....
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So I just went to check some policies and 3 out of 4 were not covered and 1 was listed as additional coverage. So it's not standard. Also asked my wife who is in brokerage and she pulled several up and she has the same thing. Idk. I've always known it to not be covered.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Fair enough.

That doesn't mean that you are immune from being charged with murder, and possibly convicted, if it's found that you didn't act in self-defense as it is understood according to state law.
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I would like to see the jury that views a photo of a man pointing a gun at your head and essentially says you did not have the right to defend yourself in that moment.
 
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BeardedVol said:
So your proposing that he had no knowledge that a plastic bag thrown at him from behind, which fell very short of even making contact with him, and he wouldn't have seen if he were running away, is some how justification for 'fear of imminent death' and warrants the use of deadly force?

Removes yourself from the emotion-laden camaraderie that you feel towards the guy, and say that out loud to yourself, and see if that makes sense under any circumstances.
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I have been bullied before. I dont imagine these guys were shouting encouraging words as they ran after him. Being chased is enough to throw your sense of what is going on in a loop. It's literally fight or FLIGHT. He was in flight until they ran him down and then he turned to fight.
It's not a stretch to say he felt he was in danger. Especially as he was already running away.

He wasnt sitting their running his mouth or even running towards to protest. He was running AWAY. No idea how long that provocation line lasts. Do we know that part of the timeline. Let's say they argued at some point, pretty much proven, and then an hour goes by before anything physical happens to get him to run. Is he still at fault for causing that? I dont see how a significant chunk of time (more than 5 to 10 minutes) is justified as starting something.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
I would like to see the jury that views a photo of a man pointing a gun at your head and essentially says you did not have the right to defend yourself in that moment.
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Because the only thing the Jury will see is a still shot from a video of events that occurred after Rittenhouse had already shot a person 5 times, because of course there's no other evidence that gives context to the videos and the timeline of the shootings?
 
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BeardedVol said:
Because the only thing the Jury will see is a still shot from a video of events that occurred after Rittenhouse had already shot a person 5 times, because of course there's no other evidence that gives context to the videos and the timeline of the shootings?
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Let's say the guy with the Glock blows his head off. Do you think he's justified in doing so?
 
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When you boil it down, you've got:

A kid with a gun.
VS
A pedophile.
A convicted domestic abuser.
A convicted violent felon (with an illegal firearm).
Who were rioting over the shooting of another domestic abuser pedophile.

I know which side I want to be on. Bully on all of you that choose the other.
 
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