Potential shipping strike on the East Coast.

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bigdaddy said:
Also genius I worked at charity in New Orleans before Katrina, you know who got healthcare? The homeless so yeah your notion is mute and dumb
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No its not. Whether you give to homeless or not is not material. They have scams on top of the scams.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
None of that is free. When someone says something is "free", step 1 of the scam.
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I myself have provided care without billing and I know many MDs that do the same. I provided actual real time information of how this strike is hurting people and you moved the goal post. Typical lib response
 
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bigdaddy said:
I myself have provided care without billing and I know many MDs that do the same. I provided actual real time information of how this strike is hurting people and you moved the goal post. Typical lib response
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The medical industry as a whole is a scam with scams on top of their scams. Whether you provided good service or provide people out of the goodness of your heart is beside the point.

Typical lib response
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You definitely got me confused with someone else.

The medical industry as a whole is about as real as all that phony mask crap, which is why people are paying $20-30k a year for health insurance for their family a year and there is a $80T+ unfunded medicare liability.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
The medical industry as a whole is a scam with scams on top of their scams. Whether you provided good service or provide people out of the goodness of your heart is beside the point.



You definitely got me confused with someone else.

The medical industry as a whole is about as real as all that phony mask crap, which is why people are paying $20-30k a year for health insurance for their family a year and there is a $80T+ unfunded medicare liability.
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It's a big scam, you should see the bonus's these Dr.'s get, the Kick Backs they get for using certain equipment etc. the kick backs they get for doing X number of procedures

I know this for a fact without a doubt.
 
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Cod said:
It's a big scam, you should see the bonus's these Dr.'s get, the Kick Backs they get for using certain equipment etc. the kick backs they get for doing X number of procedures

I know this for a fact without a doubt.
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Physician "preference" is easily a top 3 driver of waste in the medical supply chain I work in. We can't standardize things that really ought to be standardized because Doctor X prefers this brand of gauze for reasons, and Doctor Y prefers this brand of gauze for reasons, and if you say "no" you're "endangering patient safety".
 
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Cod said:
It's a big scam, you should see the bonus's these Dr.'s get, the Kick Backs they get for using certain equipment etc. the kick backs they get for doing X number of procedures

I know this for a fact without a doubt.
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Yeah. Its a tough thing, because on one side you have people that do work and take care of people. However, on top of that is scams, more scams, and scams on top of that. The doctors won't do or say anything about all this as they are benefiting and you can't rock the boat. All of the covid nonsense was a prime example.... none of those people dare say something contrary to what the scam is doing or they're out on the street.

There are some good people, the problem is.... its all run via scam at this point and has been for decades. They've been going back to the old standby.... we need to automate. They've been saying that crap for 50 years and it has nothing to do with why medical industry is and can rip the public off.
 
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Meh... this is why Democracy doesn't work.

If they did this in Ancient Rome, they would just string them up on crosses and crucify them. Then they would find new slaves to do the work.

Rome built a solid road network, Coliseums, baths, arenas, cities, etc. Ancient Egypt did the same thing with their Pyramids.

DO YOUR JOB OR WE WILL KILL YOU is pretty solid motivation to get people to work.

Also, I love the Greco-Roman foreign policy. Become Roman and Romanize (or Greek in the case of Macedon's various empires like the Ptolemies or Seleucids) or die. It is like going to Afghanistan and telling them all to convert to Christian, speak English, and become American or die.

It is crazy how many challenges today could be solved if we just approach them with the way the Roman Republic approached their problems.

(I hope people see the humor in this post)
 
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volbound1700 said:
Meh... this is why Democracy doesn't work.

If they did this in Ancient Rome, they would just string them up on crosses and crucify them. Then they would find new slaves to do the work.

Rome built a solid road network, Coliseums, baths, arenas, cities, etc. Ancient Egypt did the same thing with their Pyramids.

DO YOUR JOB OR WE WILL KILL YOU is pretty solid motivation to get people to work.

Also, I love the Greco-Roman foreign policy. Become Roman and Romanize (or Greek in the case of Macedon's various empires like the Ptolemies or Seleucids) or die. It is like going to Afghanistan and telling them all to convert to Christian, speak English, and become American or die.

It is crazy how many challenges today could be solved if we just approach them with the way the Roman Republic approached their problems.

(I hope people see the humor in this post)
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The issue is.... they've run out of slaves (don't want to work anymore) and skilled slaves (retirees) are going the way of the dodo.

If we even look at this strike, they could simple go hire new people as the union is on strike. The problem is, those people don't exist.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Yeah. Its a tough thing, because on one side you have people that do work and take care of people. However, on top of that is scams, more scams, and scams on top of that. The doctors won't do or say anything about all this as they are benefiting and you can't rock the boat. All of the covid nonsense was a prime example.... none of those people dare say something contrary to what the scam is doing or they're out on the street.

There are some good people, the problem is.... its all run via scam at this point and has been for decades. They've been going back to the old standby.... we need to automate. They've been saying that crap for 50 years and it has nothing to do with why medical industry is and can rip the public off.
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Sorry currently trying to get insulin to those in need in NC/east tn. I have a contact up there asking for help. So I can get back back to ripping people off.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
The issue is.... they've run out of slaves (don't want to work anymore) and skilled slaves (retirees) are going the way of the dodo.
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Meh, that was what the Celts and Germanic tribes were for in Europe. Plenty of slaves to take from Gaul and Germania. For the more artistic/educated pursuits, they can use the boy loving Greeks.

I am serious pondering a joke thread called "What would the Roman Republic do" where we bring up every major political issue and debate how the Roman Republic would handle.

Most seem to be the same solution: Kill and enslave lol.
 
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bigdaddy said:
Sorry currently trying to get insulin to those in need in NC/east tn. I have a contact up there asking for help. So I can get back back to ripping people off.
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You are taking it very personal. I think your comments actually illustrate the point i.e. don't rock the boat. You don't rock the boat because they will come after you, which is why the medical industry had a uncontested layup with the insanely stupid covid ****.
 
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volbound1700 said:
Meh, that was what the Celts and Germanic tribes were for in Europe. Plenty of slaves to take from Gaul and Germania. For the more artistic/educated pursuits, they can use the boy loving Greeks.

I am serious pondering a joke thread called "What would the Roman Republic do" where we bring up every major political issue and debate how the Roman Republic would handle.

Most seem to be the same solution: Kill and enslave lol.
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Pretty much. 😂
 
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ButchPlz said:
Physician "preference" is easily a top 3 driver of waste in the medical supply chain I work in. We can't standardize things that really ought to be standardized because Doctor X prefers this brand of gauze for reasons, and Doctor Y prefers this brand of gauze for reasons, and if you say "no" you're "endangering patient safety".
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Well to clarify, i'm not talking gauze but hip replacements, knee replacements, stints etc.

Just the bonus some of these Dr.'s get is absurd, on top of their salary.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
I would say it could make it worse because you need even more skilled labor and to build that out is not necessarily a one size fits all solution.
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It's not a one size fits all, but it can be close with standardization. Also the automation can be paid for over time (borrowing) which allows a better cash flow for the accountants. Much of the "skilled" labor will also be salary/management which eliminates the union angle and in many cases the risk of overtime.
 
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Cod said:
Well to clarify, i'm not talking gauze but hip replacements, knee replacements, stints etc.

Just the bonus some of these Dr.'s get is absurd, on top of their salary.
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I know those as well, the gauze example is to show how far down it goes even into expendables. It's absurd.
 
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LouderVol said:
to your last question, if the economy is booming, and everyone doing good, they can ask for whatever and I wouldn't consider it really greedy.

during an economic downturn like we are currently in, I would anything over inflation. unless they have some metric to prove that value.

I will ask you the same question for them. Lets say they get their 77%, are they going to pay for the meals and kids of the people who lose their job from the coming supply disruption? you act like they are giving something to the nation they aren't getting in return which is simply not the case.

My profession, and the entire industry is very much tied to the supply chain. We just laid off about 10% of our company. we have owner's, and lenders expressing doubt arising from these strikes from the relatively few projects we have going. we are in a good spot currently, but it wouldn't take too many projects shuttering before even more people at my fire are looking for work.

automation and advances in technology have always taken jobs. I doubt too many of the union guys worried about automation are arguing to go back to loading everything by hand. No machines what so ever.
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I'm not the one saying we are headed for Armageddon because of this strike.

Don't get me wrong, I am not defending this to the degree that it might seem. I think Daggett is a thug. Honestly he's lower than a fentanyl dealer. I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep if he suddenly found himself drinking scotch with Jimmy Hoffa. But let's not forget that management is also at fault. Whenever a labor dispute gets to a strike, both sides are culpable. The real failure here though is the GOVERNMENT. If this truly has national repercussions, why isn't Puddinhead's administration doing something? He can FORCE them back to work if he wants to. Problem there is that the democrat party knows the ramifications of that action. The schadenfreude I am enjoying in this respect is absolutely delightful. The "party of the worker" has to burn down the workers' house in order to 'prove' they are who they say they are.

Ya'll do realize that we have a federal Department of Labor. Has anyone heard the name Thomas Perez? He should be on the tip of every single American's tongue right now. He is the Secretary of Labor. He's the head cheese after Puddinhead that should be running point on this right now. Admittedly I do not watch the news on any regular basis, and I had to look up who he is. Why is he not front and center, in front of cameras several times each day - if this is as dire as it is being painted to be? Is mediation going on that is being administered by the DOL? If not, WHY THE **** NOT? Because this is just one more example of the utter FAILURE that a Democrat government is, and will be.

Add the DOL to the list of federal agencies that need to be dismantled.
 
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bigdaddy said:
I myself have provided care without billing and I know many MDs that do the same. I provided actual real time information of how this strike is hurting people and you moved the goal post. Typical lib response
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If you provided service without billing, then YOU paid for it.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
You are taking it very personal. I think your comments actually illustrate the point i.e. don't rock the boat. You don't rock the boat because they will come after you, which is why the medical industry had a uncontested layup with the insanely stupid covid ****.
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The insulin need is from the shutdown. Jesus you are dumb
 
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LSU-SIU said:
How? A union is not generally considered in violation of the Sherman Act. I mean what you are saying is people can't agree to not to go to work.

Breaking up the union doesn't mean those people go back to work.
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breaking up ILA, or other major unions, doesn't mean NO unions. it just means no unions of a certain scale. If the scale of the union would be considered a monopoly as a corporation it shouldn't be allowed as a union.

they could still belong to unions representing some large scale number, but controlling the entire east coast is definitely a monopoly. we would never allow a single corporation to own all those docks.
 
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bigdaddy said:
The insulin need is from the shutdown. Jesus you are dumb
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So?

You're running out of people that can or willing to work, let alone skilled ones. But I don't know why people think they have the right to set someone else's salary especially coming from the medical industry.
 
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bigdaddy said:
The insulin need is from the shutdown. Jesus you are dumb
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So the Biden administration seems to not care enough about the American public to exercise the authority it has to bring this to an end, at least temporarily.

Vote blue.
 
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