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Grand Vol said:
Using your thinking here, each and every BLM and equality march this last spring and summer was an insurrection.
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No they weren’t. They weren’t trying to install a different government. They were trying to influence government policy.

You’re really bad at this. Just stick to making up conspiracy theories about how this whole thing was staged.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
No it wasn’t. They weren’t trying to install a different government. They were trying to influence government policy.

You’re really bad at this. Just stick to making up conspiracy theories about how this whole thing was staged.
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The capital protesters/rioters weren’t trying to install a different government.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Lulz

You can't paint with a broad brush on your post without applying it equally across the board.

You aren't really good at this, are you?
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I’m not painting with a broad brush. This is dumb. Does your fantasyland intersect with reality at any points that produce a meaningful contribution to the discussion or are you just going to go with made up ******** like this?
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Yes they were.
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No they weren’t. They didn’t attempt to install a new congress or judiciary. All they were doing is trying to convince 1 branch of the government to not certify the installation of a new executive branch.
 
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hog88 said:
No they weren’t. They didn’t attempt to install a new congress or judiciary. All they were doing is trying to convince 1 branch of the government to not certify the installation of a new executive branch.
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Mike Pence is not a branch of government. A government in which the president is appointed by the Vice President is different from our government.

For that matter, a government that gets to override an election is different our form of government.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
I’m not painting with a broad brush. This is dumb. Does your fantasyland intersect with reality at any points that produce a meaningful contribution to the discussion or are you just going to go with made up ******** like this?
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Lol.

My fantasyland goes equally across all the political spectrum and I'll call it for what it is. You ignore or willfully omit the fact we did have a full blown insurrection in Seattle last summer. Does CHOP/CHAZ ring a bell? A group of people revolted against the lawful authority of the United States and subverted the Constitution of not only the United States, but that of Washington State. They armed themselves and dressed in paramilitary gear and revolted calling for a new government.

So, that's either an insurrection or terrorism. Pick one of the two. I mean, we're painting with a broad brush since your comments imply each and every member that went into the Capitol that day was on a mission to overthrow the government.

But compare and contrast what happened in Seattle as opposed to Washington DC. And you tell me which one was dealt with more harshly.

Plenty of the BLM and racial protests started off peacefully enough, but there were more than a few agitators in the crowd to get things going where they revolted against the lawful sitting government and tried to force changes through violence including calls for sitting governments, city councils, mayors and other such officials to resign. Most of the people were peaceful in those marches and they started off innocently enough. But turned into violent actions in the aftermath. Basically, lawless behavior with wanton destruction and mayhem in the aftermath.

Way, way, way worse than what happened at the Capitol.

I've said it before and I'll continue saying it because you just don't get it. If conservatives were hell bent on disrupting the election, causing an insurrection and changing the government, you would have known about it that day. Because there wouldn't be a building left standing in Washington DC.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Lol.

My fantasyland goes equally across all the political spectrum and I'll call it for what it is. You ignore or willfully omit the fact we did have a full blown insurrection in Seattle last summer. Does CHOP/CHAZ ring a bell? A group of people revolted against the lawful authority of the United States and subverted the Constitution of not only the United States, but that of Washington State. They armed themselves and dressed in paramilitary gear and revolted calling for a new government.

So, that's either an insurrection or terrorism. Pick one of the two. I mean, we're painting with a broad brush since your comments imply each and every member that went into the Capitol that day was on a mission to overthrow the government.

But compare and contrast what happened in Seattle as opposed to Washington DC. And you tell me which one was dealt with more harshly.

Plenty of the BLM and racial protests started off peacefully enough, but there were more than a few agitators in the crowd to get things going where they revolted against the lawful sitting government and tried to force changes through violence including calls for sitting governments, city councils, mayors and other such officials to resign. Most of the people were peaceful in those marches and they started off innocently enough. But turned into violent actions in the aftermath. Basically, lawless behavior with wanton destruction and mayhem in the aftermath.

Way, way, way worse than what happened at the Capitol.

I've said it before and I'll continue saying it because you just don't get it. If conservatives were hell bent on disrupting the election, causing an insurrection and changing the government, you would have known about it that day. Because there wouldn't be a building left standing in Washington DC.
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Sure. Occupying a space inside an existing municipality and declaring it to be a sovereign territory could be called an insurrection. There’s probably a more precise word for it but insurrection is fine. That wasn’t “every BLM March,” as you said. So you’re wrong there.

It also doesn’t subject all 330 million+ Americans to the whims of only the few hundred who tried to do it, so that seems like a meaningful distinction. So you’re also wrong there.

I didn’t imply that everybody who went into the Capitol was there to overthrow the government. I’ve acknowledged that there were adjacent peaceful gatherings/protest/rally. I’m sure some of them may have gone inside later, and I think I’ve acknowledged that previously. So you’re also wrong there.

The riots and destruction of property that were adjacent to the BLM marches were legally and morally wrong and have been prosecuted to the extent they have been able to identify the participants. Those people were gassed and shot with non lethal rounds, beaten with batons... I’m not sure why it matters which was reared more harshly, but I’m not sure it’s obvious that the summer rioters weren’t treated more harshly.


... “way worse...” oh ok, I see. This is about deflecting. Lol. Nice subtle lead up to it. Not interested. Any riot is bad, doesn’t mean every riot is a coup. Sorry, wrong again.

“I watched a Michael Bay film where there was a coup and this doesn’t look like that” still isn’t a valid argument. Sorry, again.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I will give you the point about them wanting to disrupt the vote. That can't be argued. But those were not people hellbent on violence. They came there in large numbers unarmed and were walking between the velvet ropes and taking selfies in various places.
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Now we have The Sultan of Turkey lecturing Biden...

Erdogan Slams Biden Over "Killer" Putin Comment: "Not Fitting Of A President" | ZeroHedge

Erdogan said Biden's comments were "not fitting of a president" and are "unacceptable" on the world stage. "Mr Biden’s comment about Putin does not suit a head of state," Erdogan told reporters after Friday prayers in Istanbul.

He then praised Putin for giving a "smart" and "classy response" after Putin made the case on state TV that Biden was engaged in mere psychological projection. Putin quipped of the "killer" slur that it "takes one to know one." He also wished the US president "good health".
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RockyTop85 said:
Mike Pence is not a branch of government. A government in which the president is appointed by the Vice President is different from our government.

For that matter, a government that gets to override an election is different our form of government.
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I think we have identified the problem, you’re ignorant of the process and how things work.
 
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hog88 said:
I think we have identified the problem, you’re ignorant of the process and how things work.
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Oh look, somebody who drank the campaign’s fundraising koolaid.

The constitution says the states choose the electors. Not the VP, not Congress, and not a few thousand combat cosplay crybabies. Congress has claimed a limited authority to resolve certain disputes when a state submits multiple panels of electors. None of those situations was triggered here.

That was all a lie to get simpleminded people to give money. Hope you didn’t give too much.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Oh look, somebody who drank the campaign’s fundraising koolaid.

The constitution says the states choose the electors. Not the VP, not Congress, and not a few thousand combat cosplay crybabies. Congress has claimed a limited authority to resolve certain disputes when a state submits multiple panels of electors. None of those situations was triggered here.

That was all a lie to get simpleminded people to give money. Hope you didn’t give too much.
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Wow. You really have embarrassed yourself in this thread good job.
 
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