Rawane Ndiaye to Officially visit this weekend per TOS

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johnnybravo said:
Wrong. Stokes would not have been eligible to play at Memphis because they did not have a scholarship available. He would have to sit until the next year. If he practiced with the team, then he would lose a year of eligibility. Quote below:

Stokes, whom Rivals.com rated the No. 11 overall prospect nationally when Stokes was still part of the Class of 2012, can play this season for a school that has an athletic scholarship available once he’s attending classes and is approved by the NCAA Clearinghouse.

Memphis, however, does not have an athletic scholarship. Stokes could practice with the Tigers this spring if he enrolls in January but wouldn’t be eligible to play until the fall of 2012.

Jarnell Stokes to announce college decision Thursday » The Commercial Appeal
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We're talking about Walk-ons and official visits. Can you site which NCAA rule the commercial appeal is saying would require stokes to sit out a semester of competition?
 
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TennesseeOrange said:
We're talking about Walk-ons and official visits. Can you site which NCAA rule the commercial appeal is saying would require stokes to sit out a semester of competition?
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It states it for you in the link.

Memphis or KY didn't have a scholly available at the time. Stokes would not have been eligible to play for them Jan 2012. He would have to sit until a scholly opened up in the fall.

This was very publically communicated during the Stokes recruitment.
 
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TennesseeOrange said:
We're talking about Walk-ons and official visits. Can you site which NCAA rule the commercial appeal is saying would require stokes to sit out a semester of competition?
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Here you go, another link:

Unlike Kentucky and the hometown Tigers, the Vols had an available scholarship for Stokes to use immediately. Stokes would be ineligible to play this season for Kentucky and Memphis because he took official visits to both schools, which made him a "recruited walk-on." Players who fall into that category are ineligible to play their first year.


Memphis star Jarnell Stokes picks UT | timesfreepress.com
 
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zansdad said:
Maybe I hangout in the football recruiting forum too much but just because he has an offer doesn't make it committable. CCM may have offered the kid a scholarship on the conditions of "if a spot opens"

Also, I take everything Quinn says with not just a grain of salt but the whole shaker. He just doesn't seem to be in the loop for insider information.
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Should not even be visiting imo.
 
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johnnybravo said:
Yemi is going into his Junior year. If he transfer, he will have to sit out a year and lose a year of eligible playing time leaving only one year left to play. Regardless of using a redshirt, he will only have one more year to play if he transfers to another school.
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Huh? If he transfers somewhere now, he can use his redshirt and would be a redshirt junior at said school the following year. You get 5 years to play 4, he's played 2 in 2...if he transfers he has 2 years left still.
 
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johnnybravo said:
Here you go, another link:

Unlike Kentucky and the hometown Tigers, the Vols had an available scholarship for Stokes to use immediately. Stokes would be ineligible to play this season for Kentucky and Memphis because he took official visits to both schools, which made him a "recruited walk-on." Players who fall into that category are ineligible to play their first year.


Memphis star Jarnell Stokes picks UT | timesfreepress.com
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Yea that's what I thought
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I bet Pearl's average was about .500 over his career at Tennessee for recruiting evaluations...I'm sure you were happy with his recruiting though right?
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Childress GOOD
Tatum GOOD
R. Smith BAD
Tabb BAD
Crews BAD
Chism GOOD
M. Johnson BAD
Williams GOOD
Negedu BAD
Maze GOOD
Hopson GOOD
West BAD
Woolridge BAD
Jurick BAD
Hall BAD
Harris GOOD
Golden GOOD
McRae GOOD
Prince GOOD
Goins GOOD


I see 11 good evaluations and 10 bad evaluations, pretty close to the .500 you speak of...and before this turns into a crews/ramar argument, I count them as bad because, yes they were talented, but part of the evaluation is what kind of person they are, those 2 were failed evaluations in that category.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I bet Pearl's average was about .500 over his career at Tennessee for recruiting evaluations...I'm sure you were happy with his recruiting though right?
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I don't remember every year us having multiple discussions about who we believe will be told to leave under BP. There was a few but so far Martin has plenty of options regarding cutting kids loose after one year.

Just as I said in my original post. Many here will refuse to believe these multiple head scratching recruits are evidence of a coach in over his head just as many of us did with dd.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Childress GOOD
Tatum GOOD
R. Smith BAD
Tabb BAD
Crews BAD
Chism GOOD
M. Johnson BAD
Williams GOOD
Negedu BAD
Maze GOOD
Hopson GOOD
West BAD
Woolridge BAD
Jurick BAD
Hall BAD
Harris GOOD
Golden GOOD
McRae GOOD
Prince GOOD
Goins GOOD


I see 11 good evaluations and 10 bad evaluations, pretty close to the .500 you speak of...and before this turns into a crews/ramar argument, I count them as bad because, yes they were talented, but part of the evaluation is what kind of person they are, those 2 were failed evaluations in that category.
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Crews and smith were damn good signs on the court. 13 to 7 is a more realistic
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Hall was certainly good when comparing him to a number of martins signs. That's 12 to 6 if contributing is the measuring stick.


Martin has a trend of guys that can't do that
 
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BruinVol said:
I don't remember every year us having multiple discussions about who we believe will be told to leave under BP. There was a few but so far Martin has plenty of options regarding cutting kids loose after one year.

Just as I said in my original post. Many here will refuse to believe these multiple head scratching recruits are evidence of a coach in over his head just as many of us did with dd.
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See above post...

Now, was pearl bringing in higher rated guys? Absolutely...but is woolridge much different than say Reese? I have said his recruiting needs to get better, this class is much more along the lines of what he needs to be pulling every year, or better.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Childress GOOD
Tatum GOOD
R. Smith BAD
Tabb BAD
Crews BAD
Chism GOOD
M. Johnson BAD
Williams GOOD
Negedu BAD
Maze GOOD
Hopson GOOD
West BAD
Woolridge BAD
Jurick BAD
Hall BAD
Harris GOOD
Golden GOOD
McRae GOOD
Prince GOOD
Goins GOOD


I see 11 good evaluations and 10 bad evaluations, pretty close to the .500 you speak of...and before this turns into a crews/ramar argument, I count them as bad because, yes they were talented, but part of the evaluation is what kind of person they are, those 2 were failed evaluations in that category.
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I just liked the winning and being in the tournament every year and beating top teams and being talked about a lot.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Childress GOOD
Tatum GOOD
R. Smith BAD
Tabb BAD
Crews BAD
Chism GOOD
M. Johnson BAD
Williams GOOD
Negedu BAD
Maze GOOD
Hopson GOOD
West BAD
Woolridge BAD
Jurick BAD
Hall BAD
Harris GOOD
Golden GOOD
McRae GOOD
Prince GOOD
Goins GOOD


I see 11 good evaluations and 10 bad evaluations, pretty close to the .500 you speak of...and before this turns into a crews/ramar argument, I count them as bad because, yes they were talented, but part of the evaluation is what kind of person they are, those 2 were failed evaluations in that category.
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Every coach is going to have their hits and misses.

Here's the thing with Martin.... He's going after kids that don't belong in this conference. If you average single digits in high school or Juco, you likely don't belong in the SEC.

This isn't an issue of hits and misses. It's an issue of not aiming at the right targets.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Every coach is going to have their hits and misses.

Here's the thing with Martin.... He's going after kids that don't belong in this conference. If you average single digits in high school or Juco, you likely don't belong in the SEC.

This isn't an issue of hits and misses. It's an issue of not aiming at the right targets.
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It's recruiting kids that are complete nonfactors. Pearls list had very few no shows.

You can call recruits like hall bust but they aren't no shows. He was a role player that gave depth. Every team must have those kind of guys
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Every coach is going to have their hits and misses.

Here's the thing with Martin.... He's going after kids that don't belong in this conference. If you average single digits in high school or Juco, you likely don't belong in the SEC.

This isn't an issue of hits and misses. It's an issue of not aiming at the right targets.
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I agree...which is why I've said this is a class that's much better, and needs to be the norm (or better)
 
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BruinVol said:
It's recruiting kids that are complete nonfactors. Pearls list had very few no shows.

You can call recruits like hall bust but they aren't no shows. He was a role player that gave depth. Every team must have those kind of guys
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Q was a role player that gave depth no?

Pearl had his no shows, there's no doubt.
 
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BruinVol said:
It's recruiting kids that are complete nonfactors. Pearls list had very few no shows.
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Right. I give him a pass on the first class because we needed bodies.

Reece, Landry were reaches. Most alarming though was that they were long time commits. No offense, but you pick up guys like that in the spring of their senior year.

Edwards looks like a miss.

The rest of martin's recruiting has been good.
 
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BruinVol said:
Very few on that list. No where close to the same ratio
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I agree, but the arguement can be made that Pearl didn't come into a situation where he had to just start adding warm bodies either.

I agree the recruiting needs to improve, like I've said this years class should be the norm, or better.
 
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