Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Agreed...that has been my experience as well. I tell people to try Keto and see how it works for them, if you are doing it right and are not losing weight...try something else, because your chemistry is just not made for it.

But I know a lot of folks that "say" they tried Keto and did it right, and after talking to them you find out they were eating a lot of that "Keto freindly" garbage on store shelves.

I try to cut carbs to the bone...and I don't eat any of that "Keto friendly" crap.
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A lot of folks also don't stay on keto long enough. It can take some time for a person's body to adjust to burning fat instead of carbs. Also, they can hit 'keto flu' for a day as they make the transition, and just give up due to that. But at the end of the day, everybody's body chemistry is made for it unless they have some kind of hormonal defect. Your body either has to burn carbs or ketones. And generally everyone's body will HAVE to burn ketones (i.e. fat). It's just a matter of how long it takes their body to realize that it has to burn ketones, and start burning ketones. (Or, as you mention, whether someone is truly putting their body in carb-deficit to force the switch.)
 
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rikberry31 said:
How about the ones who wanted Banks and Martinez fired. They'll say they never said that now but I'm sure those that keep receipts will call them out.
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VN is far too prone to eat our own. We all love the team and want what's best for us. We just all have different ideas at different times of what needs to happen to get that. I'm sure the Banks-haters, once they see his benefit to the team, will soften and support him--especially if the rest of us restrain from attacking them and causing ego that makes them dig their feet in.

JMHO...
 
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Orange_Crush said:
VN is far too prone to eat our own. We all love the team and want what's best for us. We just all have different ideas at different times of what needs to happen to get that. I'm sure the Banks-haters, once they see his benefit to the team, will soften and support him--especially if the rest of us restrain from attacking them and causing ego that makes them dig their feet in.

JMHO...
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No worries for most of VN, we have the Receipt Keepers to police the place. We need to send them to Washington.
 
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rikberry31 said:
I like "death nail", my daddy would say something like that.
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InVOLuntary said:
This is true. I find that when I do eat low carb breads and other low carb processed foods. My weight loss either slows or stops entirely. Also, I hear of people doing Keto during the week and going off for the weekend. Keto is short for ketosis. It takes days to get in ketosis where your body is consuming one's fat for energy. You likely never get into ketosis doing that.
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Not to be argumentative, but for certain desired outcomes, it works great. Seems that the longer you do keto, the quicker your body goes into ketosis. That's why the Metabolic Diet and TNT diets make you do straight keto for at least 4 week, because then once you break keto for a day or so, your body can get back into it quicker. Insulin is a muscle growth hormone, and it is release as a response to carbs. As I understand it, keto puts the body into muscle-loss zone. It helps to break it by creating an insulin response occasionally if you want to gain/preserve muscle.

But agreed, if you have lots of weight to lose, don't break keto. If you're trying to lose a bit of weight without losing muscle (or possibly even gaining muscle), carb cycling is great.
 
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DD4ME said:
Edit-
Based on your advice @peaygolf I reached out to a guy with a bunch of rife 2 bar hybrids. Those look and sound like something worth trying. As long as his price is ok.

The Never Compromises looked nice, but would have to go ebay and then the shipping bloats price.
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Sweet….. i do think the old zebra is good
They are light, but you can take the bottom plate off, fill it with some weight….
 
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Another diet that works and isn't as extreme as keto is the paleo diet.

So you're eating what our pre agricultural revolution ancestors ate.

Meat, Vegetables, fruit and nuts.

That way you don't have to completely take out all sugars. It's really just the bread and carbs that we eat way too much of and then people eat waaaay too much. Calorie deficit, healthy foods and exercise.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Not to be argumentative, but for certain desired outcomes, it works great. Seems that the longer you do keto, the quicker your body goes into ketosis. That's why the Metabolic Diet and TNT diets make you do straight keto for at least 4 week, because then once you break keto for a day or so, your body can get back into it quicker. Insulin is a muscle growth hormone, and it is release as a response to carbs. As I understand it, keto puts the body into muscle-loss zone. It helps to break it by creating an insulin response occasionally if you want to gain/preserve muscle.

But agreed, if you have lots of weight to lose, don't break keto. If you're trying to lose a bit of weight without losing muscle (or possibly even gaining muscle), carb cycling is great.
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That's where weight training becomes very beneficial. I know it's anecdotal but if I avoid the low carb breads, and snacks, like my coke zero/carb smart vanilla coke floats, I tend to continue to lose weight. If I use those products, I tend to maintain and even gain a pound or two. If I "keto" during the week and eat carbs on the weekend, my weight will go up a couple of pounds. Back on keto for the week and I lose them.
 
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Bama v UGA perspective:

UGA beating Bama (better, destroying Bama) does more for us than Bama winning imo.

UGA losing on the road to Bama doesn't change much long-term for UGA. They're going to be good for a while. Bama winning would make a statement that Deboer could keep that train rolling and that the Tide aren't going anywhere.

But UGA beating them in Tuscaloosa could be a sign that Bama's longevity at the top is coming to an end and Deboer isn't in the top tier. It'll also make Bama fans lose their minds and fight each other, which will be funny. Then the Vols will have an opportunity for a death blow in Neyland to signify that we are taking over their spot in the pecking order.
 
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SoilVol said:
Bama v UGA perspective:

UGA beating Bama (better, destroying Bama) does more for us than Bama winning imo.

UGA losing on the road to Bama doesn't change much long-term for UGA. They're going to be good for a while. Bama winning would make a statement that Deboer could keep that train rolling and that the Tide aren't going anywhere.

But UGA beating them in Tuscaloosa could be a sign that Bama's longevity at the top is coming to an end and Deboer isn't in the top tier. It'll also make Bama fans lose their minds and fight each other, which will be funny. Then the Vols will have an opportunity for a death blow in Neyland to signify that we are taking over their spot in the pecking order.
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That all makes sense but I would offer that it might be better for Bama win for the short term. I think there is a higher probability that of the two we lose to GA simply because it's at their house. If we were to beat alabama and lose to ga, then Bama beats ga, all would have one loss to each other. I think that gives us the best chance of the playoffs.
 
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TN-POSSUM said:
"Hey Fellas" Steve (from Lexington)



I didn't mean a bunch of fat boys when I posted that earlier. I meant dudes.

Every poster that chimed in sounds like they're at least 6'3" 250 lbs+. We can whoop any other forum on VN.
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I may not be as big as some of these morans, but I am slow and generally not really all that useful in a fight.
 
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knoxvol52 said:
All this diet talk and at lunch I will go to Arby's and purchase a Double Beef&Cheddar with a large Curly Fry with a large milkshake. Then stop at Shoneys and get dessert.

Then not gain an ounce.😂😂👀
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You’re either 20 or there’s a hit of ecstasy in the Shoney’s parking lot you’re not telling us.
 
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SoilVol said:
Bama v UGA perspective:

UGA beating Bama (better, destroying Bama) does more for us than Bama winning imo.

UGA losing on the road to Bama doesn't change much long-term for UGA. They're going to be good for a while. Bama winning would make a statement that Deboer could keep that train rolling and that the Tide aren't going anywhere.

But UGA beating them in Tuscaloosa could be a sign that Bama's longevity at the top is coming to an end and Deboer isn't in the top tier. It'll also make Bama fans lose their minds and fight each other, which will be funny. Then the Vols will have an opportunity for a death blow in Neyland to signify that we are taking over their spot in the pecking order.
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The best is Bama beats UGA (who will also lose to TX and eliminate them from SECC)

We beat Bama at home (clinches us the tie breaker and qualifies us for SECC)

We beat UGA in Athens. UGA is now out of playoff picture too. His offense now looks outdated and he will be pressured to change coordinators again.

Kirby has had our number. We need Georgia more than Bama for recruiting. DeBoer recruits nationally more than regionally.

That sequence is best for our needs.
 
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