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Jackcrevol said:
Word from USFS is Noli rose over 20 feet in 6 hours, 8 feet above the highest ever recorded, all way back to 1913 when Dam was built

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The train trestle in Gorge has different stages spray painted (swatches) on the bridge. Stage 1-4. Stage 4 is above the train tracks. Ive seen tires above the Sycamores from devastating flooding back in 2010's. This dwarfed that. Think about that, water above the tree line.

Helene measured over 62 ft. high
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I think we actually built better on some things when we didn't have it all mathed out. What I mean is if I give you an exact measurement you'll meet it. If I tell you to build this to stop a flood but I don't give you any measurements, you'll go bigger than you think you need just to be safe.
 
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UTProf said:
I think we actually built better on some things when we didn't have it all mathed out. What I mean is if I give you an exact measurement you'll meet it. If I tell you to build this to stop a flood but I don't give you any measurements, you'll go bigger than you think you need just to be safe.
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The TVA is slow, archaic. They dont build things just to build them. Severely under funded, and unable to control their own books.

Sound familiar?

That said, when they do something. They do it. Look at story if history of Wilbur Dam, look at South Holston, and Douglas Dams.

Perfect example is Boone Dam, researching how they reaolved that issue. Knew it was a problem for decades. They literally took 7-8 years to study, engineering a new method to fix, implement, test, and finally stage the reservoir back up.

Fascinating. Also, over engineered for obvious reasons.


I am thankful we have them. Certainly beats alternative, Duke Energy or privately run Dams. Or mother nature.
 
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Jackcrevol said:
The TVA is slow, archaic. They dont build things just to build them. Severely under funded, and unable to control their own books.

Sound familiar?

That said, when they do something. They do it. Look at story if history of Wilbur Dam, look at South Holston, and Douglas Dams.

Perfect example is Boone Dam, researching how they reaolved that issue. Knew it was a problem for decades. They literally took 7-8 years to study, engineering a new method to fix, implement, test, and finally stage the reservoir back up.

Fascinating. Also, over engineered for obvious reasons.


I am thankful we have them. Certainly beats alternative, Duke Energy or privately run Dams.
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There's a lot of myth surrounding TVA. I remember talking about TVA taking land as a kid (just repeating what everyone always claimed) and my grandmother looked at me and said, ''no, child, daddy made a lot of money selling that to TVA. It was useless land at that point."

In truth, all of East, TN is fortunate the TVA came along when it did. History would've turned out differently if it hadn't. Not just electrifying the region either or the massive improvements to flood control. Take the atom bomb... Oak Ridge was using more power than Manhattan. Where oh where did that power come from?
 
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TVA has some serious issues approaching. Most dams were built to last 80-100 years and will be due to be replaced. One can not fathom the money and time needed, but hundreds of billions or even a trillion would not be out of the question, and take decades. Being self funded, electricity rates are going to sky rocket.
 
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PlanetVolunteer said:
And 1992! Majors somehow lost to a 3 win Arkansas team. Win that and we play Bama in the first ever SEC title game.

GAWD we have some annoyingly dumb losses in our history

NOT THIS WEEKEND DAMNIT
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1992 was bc they were trying to push Majors out for Fulmer….. The team was split with half pulling for Phil and the other half wanting Majors.
 
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Orangeburst said:
TVA has some serious issues approaching. Most dams were built to last 80-100 years and will be due to be replaced. One can not fathom the money and time needed, but hundreds of billions or even a trillion would not be out of the question, and take decades. Being self funded, electricity rates are going to sky rocket.
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They're such a poorly run (I know surprising) organization. Those damns should've been replaced are updated constantly. They only do patch jobs. Most of the flooding is on them and the government's in ability to spend money correctly
 
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Orangeburst said:
TVA has some serious issues approaching. Most dams were built to last 80-100 years and will be due to be replaced. One can not fathom the money and time needed, but hundreds of billions or even a trillion would not be out of the question, and take decades. Being self funded, electricity rates are going to sky rocket.
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If Chickamauga Dam ever goes, Chattanooga goes with it.
 
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Rishvol said:
They're such a poorly run (I know surprising) organization. Those damns should've been replaced are updated constantly. They only do patch jobs. Most of the flooding is on them and the government's in ability to spend money correctly
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I have been in the bowels of most of them and had a close work relationship with engineering in a past job. They are really over designed and impressive, but wont last forever. Not even sure how you replace one. Just the lock replacement on Chickamauga is like $1B and a decade, and not even anything to do with the flood gates.
 
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Orangeburst said:
TVA has some serious issues approaching. Most dams were built to last 80-100 years and will be due to be replaced. One can not fathom the money and time needed, but hundreds of billions or even a trillion would not be out of the question, and take decades. Being self funded, electricity rates are going to sky rocket.
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IDK why this country hates investing in infrastructure but it's the kind of thing that you put off until it kills you. I'd rather bypass the killing us bit and pay up before things collapse.
 
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Orangeburst said:
I have been in the bowels of most of them and had a close work relationship with engineering in a past job. They are really over designed and impressive, but wont last forever. Not even sure how you replace one. Just the lock replacement on Chickamauga is like $1B and a decade, and not even anything to do with the flood gates.
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Can you imagine Fontana?
 
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UTProf said:
There's a lot of myth surrounding TVA. I remember talking about TVA taking land as a kid (just repeating what everyone always claimed) and my grandmother looked at me and said, ''no, child, daddy made a lot of money selling that to TVA. It was useless land at that point."

In truth, all of East, TN is fortunate the TVA came along when it did. History would've turned out differently if it hadn't. Not just electrifying the region either or the massive improvements to flood control. Take the atom bomb... Oak Ridge was using more power than Manhattan. Where oh where did that power come from?
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it gave so many jobs to folks out of work.

tourism. flood control. recreation.

now still the govt, and they can do some pretty ****** things like change rules at any time, elevation levels, that can really mess with people's livlihoods.
 
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peaygolf said:
What happens when the playoff teams are announced on Dec. 8th.............and both, or either one, are undefeated and still have to play their game on Dec. 14th???


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Both of them have a bye on December 7th. This game could be moved up a week if either is in playoff contention.
 
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