Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[UTProf]

Thornton has been good. Bru and Squirrel are hurt/banged up now. Brazzel has been underwhelming thus far. I didn’t expect him to be a Biletnikoff winner but expected more out of him thus far.

Right now, Thornton is all we've got in terms of health and consistency. And we're going to need him to step up even more.

 

[mrMet]

That is part of it but NC State also ran a version of it which slowed us down at the start but I figured we already knew how to scheme around it now.

We adjusted and then ran it down their throat. Tonight we didnt

 

[Smokey123]

Go look at the yardage. They moved the ball at will.

Yards don’t determine the winner.

 

[VolGee4]

That was a fair call. Dumbass had no chance of blocking the kick and yet rammed the punter in the head. He shouldn't have been anywhere near the punter.

He was blocked into him.

 

[mrMet]

Harbaugh took 9 years to win a title
Dabo 8
Smart 6

We are only in year 4 with Heupel: recruiting is good, we’ve had fun wins, we win 70% or more of our games

We don’t need to blow anything up and start over

Dang I did not realize harbaugh was at UM that long

 

[UTProf]

We adjusted and then ran it down their throat. Tonight we didnt

Well, we would have but we ran into the kicker instead. That play decided the game. We went from sailing through the 2nd half to full blown panic.

 

[Midas]

He was of because he couldn't trust the o line and play calling to keep him clean. He's a young QB who was afforded no favors from coaching or o line tonight. He was set up to fail.

The Arkansas coaching staff saw the deficiencies and seized on it all night. I saw those same issues over the last three weeks.

He thought he could have it for another play and was very close. There wasn't a good play to be made on that that last one. The issue is coaching and o line..... There wasn't a QB on roster that could have done better.

Quit blaming the the young inexperienced QB and blame the experienced units that failed him all night.


Or blame the QB if you want..... Just be prepared to never get a decent one again.

I’ve been noticing Heard might not be all he’s hyped up to be since the first game. Chatt’s ends beat him on some plays. Maybe that’s why he wanted out of LSU cause their oline hasnt really been that great either and he couldn’t start.

 

[InVOLuntary]

If we don’t let them score on the last drive then they kick a FG with 3 seconds left on the clock.

Yes, we had to let them score. They moved the ball effortlessly to get in that position. Good defenses don't allow that. If this was against bama or Georgia I'd look at it differently. This was against a very average arkansas team.

 

[KB5252]

So even Heup saw there wasn't really a play to be made.... Just a wing and a prayer. The kid thought he could have another second.... I'm not going fault him for that..... And if you think Heup would you're a fool and completely misrepresenting what Heup said.

 

[OrangeMoundTNVol]

I’m so pissed I tried waiting before posting. Truth is the passing game has been suspect all season, sans cupcakes. Nico has a lot of growing up to do, I was always kind of worried with him impressing more on the 7 on 7 circuit than his actual in season HS production. But wanted to believe it was a result of not being surrounded by high level play makers at his HS. Truth is he has a lot of potential but also a lot of developing needed. Coach Heup needs a youth movement, put Matthews & Lewis on the field. Squirrel for whatever reason is nonexistent this year. We have no one that can take a 5 yard play to the house currently starting. Safeties reared its ugly head tonight, they are slow and non athletic. Green should’ve been picked off at least twice while we just look like we are jogging in quick sand on the backend. It hurt watching that frosh RB we wanted at Arky come in and punish us. But can’t ding the D too much considering how much the offense f**ked around tonight. Beat Florida and we all feel a little better, but Arky put out a blue print. Make Nico beat you, and Heup has to trust him to sling it. But also the o-line b**ched up tonight, including Coop with errant snaps. Whole night just felt off, they fell for the rat poison and ruined us celebrating Bama losing. Gotdammit this one hurt

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

He was blocked into him.

But why did he have his arms raised up high enough to hit the counter in the helmet? He had no chance of blocking the punt.

 

[vol4eva]

So many mistakes that ended up costing us that game. Squirrel not fielding the punt which pushed us back, then dropped a ball for a first down. Then another drop the next play, which set up there game winning drive.

Not to mention all the penalties

 

[jave36]

Yes, we had to let them score. They moved the ball effortlessly to get in that position. Good defenses don't allow that. If this was against bama or Georgia I'd look at it differently. This was against a very average arkansas team.

Let a backup qb run it down our throat. Still can't believe they didn't stack the box

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

The running into the kicker call was key, and I didn’t think it was a good call.

Looked like he got blocked into the kicker. Looked like the shove carried his momentum into him.

 

[InVOLuntary]

It’s called complimentary football though. Squirrel gives up field position and then Ross has an ok punt. They started on their 41.

So maybe one more play? It was like water through a screen door.

 

[mrMet]

Well, we would have but we ran into the kicker instead. That play decided the game. We went from sailing through the 2nd half to full blown panic.

Definitely felt the vibes change after that. Freshman mistake at the worst time

 

[GVol1966]

He was of because he couldn't trust the o line and play calling to keep him clean. He's a young QB who was afforded no favors from coaching or o line tonight. He was set up to fail.

The Arkansas coaching staff saw the deficiencies and seized on it all night. I saw those same issues over the last three weeks.

He thought he could have it for another play and was very close. There wasn't a good play to be made on that that last one. The issue is coaching and o line..... There wasn't a QB on sister that could have done better.

Quit blaming the the young inexperience
d QB and blame the experienced units that failed him all night.


Or blame the QB if you want..... Just be prepared to never get a decent one again.

Who’s sister?

Most of that is true! I agree

Nico missed on the deep play that was wide open, missed on some more that were
On him.

Everyone is to blame, let’s not leave anyone out.
It was a s**t show on Offense except for maybe Sampson.

Pretty much like last week

 

[InVOLuntary]

Let a backup qb run it down our throat. Still can't believe they didn't stack the box

Because that's tim banks.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Did Kitselman drop the ball on the last drive that would have put us inside the 10?

He was thrown a 100mph fastball for no reason. That pass was on Nico. He could have easily taken juice off that throw.

 

[jave36]

So many mistakes that ended up costing us that game. Squirrel not fielding the punt which pushed us back, then dropped a ball for a first down. Then another drop the next play, which set up there game winning drive.

Not to mention all the penalties

Not fielding that punt was the biggest one. He started on the 30 and it landed on the 40 right in front of him. You can't run under a punt 10 yards in front of you with a ton of hang time?

 

[mrMet]

So many mistakes that ended up costing us that game. Squirrel not fielding the punt which pushed us back, then dropped a ball for a first down. Then another drop the next play, which set up there game winning drive.

Not to mention all the penalties

Squirrel sucks

 

[SoilVol]

Have to reset our expectations for this team.

Take the 30,000 foot view. Talented freshman QB. Old but thin OL. Dominant defense. We will likely be in every game, but just like tonight, a lot of SEC teams can upset us.

6-6 heads are rolling.
7-5 is absolutely unacceptable.
8-4 a big disappointment but not unreasonable.
9-3 should be expected.
10-2 is playoffs and exceeds expectations.
11-1 very little chance of happening. Mostly bc of the OL.

We have loaded the cupboard with talent, but we have slacked on the OL. Blame whatever or whoever you want for that, but it's a glaring problem and has been for two years now.

If the OL makes huge strides next year then I think we have a higher ceiling in 2025.

 

[JT3]

This game is on banks probably moreso on Heuple. We still don't have a secondary that can cover granny clampet. His defense gave up the game winning drive

Maybe, but arkansas should have had more. We were extremely lucky. Maybe you like a defense that gives up tons of yardage. That bend but don't break. It is going to bite you eventually and it did tonight. Drove the length of the field and really had too much time on the clock left. What was it 3 plays?

We will never have a championship level defense as long as he's here. Bobby Patrino abused him tonight. And, there defensive coordinator abused heuple just as bad. Totally out classed from a coaching standpoint. Hopefully it's an anomaly with Heup.

Yea let's blame the unit that actually performing and doing there job and overlook the high powered offense that averaging 18.5 points in SEC games.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

But why did he have his arms raised up high enough to hit the counter in the helmet? He had no chance of blocking the punt.

He raised his arm up to try and miss the kicker. But still ended up hitting him while trying to dodge him.

 

[berryvol]

So many mistakes that ended up costing us that game. Squirrel not fielding the punt which pushed us back, then dropped a ball for a first down. Then another drop the next play, which set up there game winning drive.

Not to mention all the penalties

Squirrel is really bad, if we’re being honest.