Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[SCvol333]

I didn’t drink a drop last night, but hoo boy do I feel hungover.

I must have had your share….

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Every analysis of this game has to start with Cade Mays being hurt. That was devastating and setback the offense the entire first half. That the second half offense was so successful is why you should believe in this staff.

And yet we have critics galore bashing them...just because..

 

[jakez4ut]

I'll admit..I didn't, and still aren't, handling this very well.

 

[Rishvol]

I just want to see more fans defending the fans

 

[Nash_Vol97]

Wtf was that playcalling on that drive in the 4th quarter.

1st and 19 from about midfield and we go 2 slow ass developing runs right at the teeth of the defense and an 8 yard pass to a TE who hasn’t caught a ball all game? Da fuq

I was redneck mad after that drive. We get a turnover, crowd is juiced, defense is getting a rest after making a huge play.. and it just felt like we gave up on that drive after the holding penalty.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I dont think Milton is the reason we lost. I have no trust in his ability because of what he has shown this entire season and then his last play tonight. That would shoot me through the roof if I was the head coach.

Milton is not the reason we lost..but he sucks, and nobody wants him on the field again.

That is one of the most egregiously stupid things I have ever seen.

 

[turdherder11]

Wish we could have pulled it out. It would have really put things into high gear for a faster rebuild, however, making a bowl game would be huge. Ole Miss isn't make or break.

Got to admit seeing the fans run back to their seats after being forced to leave, getting loud, was awesome.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Get healthy, focus on the Alabama game.

We have about 4 weeks before we’re in Neyland again. If I’m DW I’d suspend alcohol sells the rest of the season. It’s the only way you actually punish the fan base, sure it’s gonna cost ya money but he needs to make a very direct response that shows this behavior isn’t acceptable and eliminating the liquid courage that helped inspire it will do that.

 

[SamRebel35]

A 5+ hour game is inexcusable and Ole Miss needs to be held accountable.

The way I look at this. Lane Kiffin called for fake injuries that made the game more than an hour longer than it should have been. He wasted an hour of time of 100,000+ people. He owes us 100,000+ hours! Collectively, he wasted 12 years worth of people's time at that game.

 

[jakez4ut]

I think I need to pull back a little. My wife and kids knew how excited I was for the game so she spent a good portion yesterday cooking burgers for dinner, nachos for halftime, spicy jalapeño margaritas (my jam lately), hung Tennessee decorations with the kids, and they all decked out in Tennessee swag to watch the game with me. Even the dog had on a Tennessee collar.

…. and instead of fully appreciating and having a fun night, I spent a lot of last night frustrated and annoyed.

It’s been years since I let a football game affect my mood. Idk if this was a combination of convincing myself we were legit good again, or just really wanting to embarrass Lane, or what. But this game really pissed me off.

I feel terrible about that.

I might ground myself from watching a game or two. Which thankfully it’s Alabama week so it’s probably best I don’t watch.

Feeling kinda the same this morning. These kinds of games, the 'almost'games, they really do take a lot of wind out of the sails. And with who we have coming up the next few weeks...ugh.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

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Should add.."We will assume the position quietly next time"

 

[Catbone]

Can we just opt out of the Georgia and Bama games to get healthy? Pls

 

[gainesvol82]

The way I look at this. Lane Kiffin called for fake injuries that made the game more than an hour longer than it should have been. He wasted an hour of time of 100,000+ people. He owes us 100,000+ hours! Collectively, he wasted 12 years worth of people's time at that game.

He looked freaked out in the postgame interview.

 

[barrylee]

We had a chance to have a decent year yet we shat our pants when we played any team with a pulse. USC barely beat Andy and Mizzou is hot trash.

Heupel can beat bad teams but our teams have looked ill-prepared when we’ve played UF, Pitt, and now OM. Those were the games we could have won and went 0-3.

Lots of injuries and Bama next week is gonna be painful

We had a chance to have a decent year yet we shat our pants when we played any team with a pulse. USC barely beat Andy and Mizzou is hot trash.

Heupel can beat bad teams but our teams have looked ill-prepared when we’ve played UF, Pitt, and now OM. Those were the games we could have won and went 0-3.

Lots of injuries and Bama next week is gonna be painful

Lol that's quite a take!

 

[csprig9]

Get healthy, focus on the Alabama game.

We have about 4 weeks before we’re in Neyland again. If I’m DW I’d suspend alcohol sells the rest of the season. It’s the only way you actually punish the fan base, sure it’s gonna cost ya money but he needs to make a very direct response that shows this behavior isn’t acceptable and eliminating the liquid courage that help inspire it will do that.

Blame and penalize the fans for awful officiating, an ******* opposing coach, 10+ years of getting **** on
No Danny white should condemn what happened and turn on the SEC big time

 

[jakez4ut]

The fake injury thing needs fixed.

 

[WebbCobb]

Our defense had something to do with that too.

While the D didn’t pitch a shutout, they held OM to below their season average, only allowed 7 in the second half, got the O the ball back with a minute left, and the first OM scoring drive started on about UT’s 10 yard line. The D did their job

 

[jakez4ut]

While the D didn’t pitch a shutout, they held OM to below their season average, only allowed 7 in the second half, got the O the ball back with a minute left, and the first OM scoring drive started on about UT’s 10 yard line. The D did their job

Agreed. The defense wasnt the issue.

 

[Vols4us]

That Milton is the back-up kills whatever hope we have if Hooker can't go. The guy is so out of it mentally in games he intentionally runs out of bounds on the last play rather than throw it up for grabs to have a shot to win. He should never even wear the uni again. Heup needs to acknowledge his mistake of bringing him in and drop him back to third team. But he won't. I predict that he will start him against Bama if Hooker cannot go.

We need Heup to grow as a HC. Running the ball up the middle on first and second down at various times in the game including the 4th quarter when you are behind with a patchwork o-line and back-up RB's is not what you should do. That's not hard to understand. Have your QB throw some quick hitches and slants to keep the chains moving since they were open all night long. It's OK to throw 5 yard hitches to TE's and RB's in open zones, I promise. Even HB has proven in games he can do that if Milton cannot/will not.

Not some of Heup's best work last night. Not some of DC Banks's best work either. That Corral got a zillion yards on QB draws that everybody who watched the game knew was coming tells the story. His coverage schemes were great, however. He did not have to sacrifice one for the other. He needed to have the D-line hold their gaps when pushing the pocket and the LB's cheat up to avoid the blocks that always came about 5 yards from the LOS all game long. The S help never came until Corral cut off the o-lineman block of the LB. The S's cue should be the o-lineman coming out of pass pro to block downfield when Corral left the pocket. The gains would have been held to 5 yards or so. Didn't happen.

Kiffin outsmarted our coaching staff along with the officials help to win that game for OM.

 

[Specs]

There is way too much money flowing around college football, and the sec in particular, now days. As usual it corrupts everything it touches. The league office, the NCAA, and the sports media is filled with parasites that are concerned about two things: scraping as much cash as possible into their own pockets, and not upsetting the gravy train that allows them to do it.

The SEC will protect their teams in order of (1) playoff contenders, and (2) setting up marque matchups against high ranked teams for TV $. The officiating system they have in place helps them do this. Some obscure grading system and and fleeting connection to competence provide cover to getting the results they want. Tennessee gets jobbed sometimes for those exact reasons and sometimes as a side effect.

And you'll never hear about it in major media. Smaller guys on the fringes that are less connected to the money funnel, sure, but not at espn. Questioning the integrity of the game by pointing out substandard officiating is bad for business. And these poor refs have days jobs, keep in mind. So despite the billions of dollars flowing through this league no one can a few dollars to scrape off for full time officiating, basically because they are too busy jamming every bill they see into their own pockets.

Just watch espn over this week and see how much pearl clutching and deriding of the fan base will happen - and always without context. They might sit up in a booth somewhere taking about how much they hate to see it but how many minutes are they going to dedicate to playing that coverage on a loop? They love it, it draws eyeballs and thus advertising dollars. They will feign concern about player safety while the executives are off screen high fiving each other.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

On 2nd and whatever, if DD blocks literally anyone… Small is still running… broadcasters even said the offensive guys in the booth were pretty animated after that play because it should have broke for a big gain

Don't explain the obvious to him...he is one of those that lives to criticize the staff.

 

[SoilVol]

We had a chance to have a decent year yet we shat our pants when we played any team with a pulse. USC barely beat Andy and Mizzou is hot trash.

Heupel can beat bad teams but our teams have looked ill-prepared when we’ve played UF, Pitt, and now OM. Those were the games we could have won and went 0-3.

Lots of injuries and Bama next week is gonna be painful

You do realize we are only halfway through the season, some didn't project us to win a single SEC game, we have 70 players on scholarship, and we just took the #12 team to the wire in a primetime matchup despite injuries and lack of depth because of the job this coaching staff has done and the effort and buy-in these players have put in?

I would expect such a brash, emotional, whiney response from a child under 12 years old. Get it together or stop watching.

 

[TheRain]

The fan thing has been discussed to death already. It sucked, not worth mentioning again.

Big picture, we were Cedric Tillman’s fingertips away from beating the #13 team in the country and the #1 offense with a 70-man roster, without our starting RB, without starting offensive linemen, with a defensive TD taken away, with what I’ll generously call “inconsistent” officiating, some curiously conservative late play-calling, without hooker on the last drive, etc etc.

To be clear, I’m over moral victories. But that game looked like a clearly outmatched team hanging till the end, not giving up, fighting tooth-and-nail all the way. And almost pulling it off!

It was heartbreaking last night, this morning it feels like an effort we should be proud of, and hopefully a sign of what’s possible in the future.

Put up respectable efforts against Bama and Georgia, beat Kentucky (I feel like we take this one more than ever now), USA, and Vandy, and let’s go bowling. Go vols.

Exactly.

 

[nashvol1]

Milton is not the reason we lost..but he sucks, and nobody wants him on the field again.

That is one of the most egregiously stupid things I have ever seen.

Hype in the press conference was not happy at all about Joe

 

[Kristy*]

Jimmy ragging on Heup this morning for the telling Spraggins to "go down". Justified given what Ole Miss was doing all game?

Spraggins was actually banged up and trying to get off the field and was told to go down to give them time to substitute. He wasn't faking an injury like Ole Miss.