Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[UpstateVol613]

 

[VOLED]

Disappointing end to a good season. It is what it is.

All of this has been said 100000 times, but:

- I hope Justin Williams is a stud. We 100% should have seen Whitehead last night. Bigger back was needed.

- The defense is garbage, we have a couple of pieces, but that’s it. After last night, I think we need a transfer at every level on Defense. Hopefully we see Charles, Turnage, Mohan play more next year.

- Need another OL (unless Cade comes back), DT, Edge, ILB, CB, S, and WR

Excellent points on all of this. Unfortunately, we need players at just about every position. Won't all happen this year.

 

[Glocker_Alum_2005]

Anybody calling for coaches to be fired need to have their head examined. It’s like we don’t even try to learn from history anymore.

This entire staff is more than capable, we just need more horses.

This! Now can this staff recruit well enough to get us to an elite level? TBD. I believe worse case Heup and staff string together some 7 and 8 wins seasons. Perhaps an off year 5 or 6 win season (injuries). Puts us in a much better place to go coach hunting in 2025 or so, if need be.

 

[Orange Studs]

Best part about this game is we can sell it as a win. Recruits saw the game and know we scored. Plus, Purdue is a good team and we should have beat them. Love this teams fight and I hope this is trait JH brings to every team.

Glad your doing better Bro.

 

[tnvols72]

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So just fire him huh. The defense struggling has nothing to do with this thin roster that he inherited? Shoot let’s just fire everyone and start all over again. SMH

Dont fire everybody on D. I want to keep Garner. Willie can be replaced this morning and it will be a upgrade. I might be a little hard on Banks but I thought from day 1 that he was a bad hire but he had nothing to work with but if he follows next year up with these same results then he should be fired

 

["It's Time"]

I sincerely question whether Heupel is the guy - whether his schemes will work in the sec, long run.

I don’t want to be a Debbie downer but all we really did this year was catch a lot of people off guard and beat up on bad teams.

I’m far less optimistic about year two today than I was just a few days ago.

I think it’s fair to wonder, but I’m confident in this staff to continue the positive momentum. They exceeded what I believed they could do in recruiting, so I’m willing to be patient.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Also I will admit. Purdue was much better than I thought they would be. Brohm being there 5 years and having some depth built made a huge difference.

 

[vol81]

We. Just. Need. More. Players.
That is all

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Glad your doing better Bro.

Thanks man! Now just healing and trying to do number 2…. Lol

 

[johnfnkelly]

We. Just. Need. More. Players.
That is all

Purdue didn’t

 

[yourstruly23]

CB is a much bigger concern than LB to me at this point.. certainly need both

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Purdue didn’t

Did Purdue lose 30 to the transfer portal? Was it year one for Brohm?

 

[BigSteve09]

Hopefully that game was a learning experience for Heupel and this staff.

That's really all I can think to say. I'm so mad.

 

[Vols4us]

Biggest gripe with this staff is seemingly refusing to play underclassmen that are more talented. Tank needs to be benched and Slaughter or Charles take his spot. Turnage should be playing over Burrell. Why haven’t we seen Willis or Mohan more? We have one linebacker. Play the young guys and see what they can bring. It seems they trust the older players more but they lack athleticism and play among ability of the younger players. It was obvious the talent gap on defense. Also, RT is terrible. Get another transfer on top of mincey.
But every game was fun this year and this team fights for each other. They don’t give up ever. That’s culture and will be huge for the future. Even with how bad our defense played at times and the missed Tds, we should have won. Props to the coaches. We have a bright future.

This right here ^^^

Play for the future. Especially after UK they knew they were garbage on D. Play all the young guys. They didn't need to concern themselves with redshirts of unproven players this season and with the portal available.

When the pressure was on most of the older guys reverted to who they were in the past on D.

I cannot imagine any viewpoint that has it acceptable for Davis to get that many snaps this season at OT. None. That's like Botch did throwing his center out there to play OT. It will never turn out well. This will not go over well with some on here, however, Carvin was recruited to play RT at UT. At least he would know the footwork and is athletic enough to do it better than the others if Cade was unable to go. Seems like we did not plan well for the injuries, or, misevaluated a few guys.

 

[Z06VolinWV]

This is my story and I’m sticking to it. Not moral victories, the record is what it is, but this was a great job by coach Hype this year! Sadly, the close games were put in the hands of the refs.

As for last night. I am most upset about the end of the 4th play calling. Get 12-15 yards, and make a FG, ball game.

 

[VOLSONLY]

Dont fire everybody on D. I want to keep Garner. Willie can be replaced this morning and it will be a upgrade. I might be a little hard on Banks but I thought from day 1 that he was a bad hire but he had nothing to work with but if he follows next year up with these same results then he should be fired

Let’s at least allow these coaches on defense recruit the players they need before we burn them at the stake

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

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Fant's effort on this play is embarrassing and he should be disciplined for it.

 

[rjd970]

Who here would have thought at the beginning of the season we would be bowl eligible and despite the bad play at times, basically 3 calls away from 10 wins?

Calling for anyone on this staff to be fired/replaced is lunacy.

 

[rjd970]

Fant's effort on this play is embarrassing and he should be disciplined for it.

I didn’t even catch that. He makes that block with even a medium of effort and we score without any question.

 

[KB5252]

I know many have asked about portal guys we are actively recruiting, but is anyone aware of any that may be looking to leave?

 

[GoBigOrange86]

 

[KB5252]

Aside from one catch Fant was pretty bad all night. He was beating the football up every time they passed his way.

 

[VOLSONLY]

Who here would have thought at the beginning of the season we would be bowl eligible and despite the bad play at times, basically 3 calls away from 10 wins?

Calling for anyone on this staff to be fired/replaced is lunacy.

 

[volbeast33]

Ive thought this as well. He needs to make adjustments to it. Right now the scheme really is run something short up the middle then try and hurry up and catch a mis aligned defense.
Also another thing they talked about yesterday was how he tries to get the offense off the field in 9 plays or less because of their conditioning. Thats a problem too sometimes you have to grind out 14 play drives. Im hoping its just a depth thing, but with how he ran his offense at UCF im not so sure.
Another thing the announcers talked about, they said the coaches told them that we run the ball up the middle so much so the O lineman are close to the ball and so they can get set quickly. Thats not gonna work either. If teams are giving numbers you have to run counter, outside zone etc.
This isnt a fire Heupel post at all, I think he needs 5 years regardless of what happens. Just some observations through last night and throughout the year. Im hoping some of this stuff was just depth related but im not so sure it is. Heupel has some growing to do if he is going to be the one that gets us where we want to be.
Again this isnt a fire Heupel post just some observations.

They do run it up the middle a lot and run it well….. look up the counters that ran at UCF…. Some of those designs were pretty impressive…… I’m sure he probably doesn’t have the talent to run his entire package yet.

 

[Orange Studs]

Fant's effort on this play is embarrassing and he should be disciplined for it.

Huh?