Recruiting Forum Football Talk IV

[MrVolton]

Keep turning over coaches and rosters and we will never get to be a good team.

Not one of the last three coaches did anything to deserve another year.

 

[SpringBokVol]

I woke up not caring as much. Feels nice. See ya around.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

And yet we have. Multiple times. The receiver dropped it. But please restart the HB posts again. They really added a lot to the evening.

That first deep ball from Milton was a beauty and Hyatt dropped it and then got a concussion in the process. Hyatt stays healthy and catches the ball there and it’s a different game IMO.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Agreed, they got many more gifts from us than we have them.

Don’t understand that stat thing that was put out… we had 2 turnovers in our own territory and were still in the game… how did Pitt “gift” us anything? Lol

 

[RiotVol]

MJ > Lebron

 

[butchna]

If I was a talented HS QB and I watched that game...I would be wanting that opportunity.

“That guy’s that wide open? I hit him…in stride!”
- Tayven prolly

 

[KPT_VFL]

Still beating Florida.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

How?

BG we had 2 one was Milton, the other was Pierce
Pitt we had 2 one was Milton, the other was Hooker

Mesh Point fumble against Bowling Green….. that apparently you forgot about (that was not Pierce lol, Hooker tried to pull it and fumbled it)

 

[Devo182]

Ya know those games where every replay starts off with "this one had controversy"? How is ours not one of those? I don't get how this isn't a bigger thing. It seems absurdly obvious it was a 1st down. That one's going to sting for awhile.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

we're the only team I know that doesn't EVER have a QB

ever ever ever

 

[SSVol]

So how long is a reasonable time for a coach to decide a starter isn't cutting it? And then add to that his practice experience and the quality of the backups. What's the right answer?

What if QB1 is Tom Brady, QB2 is Shrout, and QB3 is Maurer...and Brady isn't doing well? Probably a different answer than if QB2 is Peyton Manning and QB3 is Aaron Rodgers.

We have no clue what Heupel's rating of each QB is and why. We have no idea how short anyone's leash is. We only have history. Heupel has never hung onto a failing QB if he had a choice. But again, how long before you change? One game? Two? Four? I think even the best coaches tend to err on the side of staying with the starter longer. Even Saban.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

Hooker continues drives, at least

Milton offers nothing more than JG did. 3 and outs bby

Ehh that’s not true. Milton had a very good run that continued a drive after us being like 18 to 20 yds away from the sticks.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I think it's great FSU is still sucking

 

[Jimmy Football]

I woke up not caring as much. Feels nice. See ya around.

See ya in a bit!

 

[Batman1948]

Man I’m worried about the rest of the year. Hate seeing other schools with relatively new coaching staffs have a signature win. Jelly. We just can’t seem to get out of this hole. We certainly can’t recruit our way out. Sads.

The best advice my mom gave me was "never worry about anything you can't control". I've always lived my life with that in mind.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Not one of the last three coaches did anything to deserve another year.

Yep. Our problem has been hiring, not firing.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Yes people will show up if we win 10 + games but don’t want to be part of building the program.
The baseball thing is a good example…. Most people barely knew we had a baseball program but when we won enough…. Those people started getting tickets and knocking the ones that had been supporting them the whole time if they didn’t have season tickets.

We’ve been building since 2007. Stop blaming fans for wanting to stay home. Damn craziness. Come spend $500 on tickets, gas, food, etc. to watch loss after loss because that is what “fandom” is. Drive all day long and use a whole Saturday because you are a Vol fan. Vol fans have dealt with enough for 14 years. Put a product on the field that competes with UGA and Bama and watch how everyone comes. Fans have had enough kicks to the gut to keep having to endure it. Eventually you tap out. Fans can still stay home and watch the games.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

And completes the passes with more accuracy. Again you can work with a guy that turns the ball over as long as he can move the ball. Milton threw for 50 yards, Hooker gave us 188 and threw a pick but scored two touchdowns.

If you can make an argument as to why this offense is better under Milton moving forward using stats I want to see it.

This offense is better with Milton going forward if he learns to lay the ball up there and let the receivers get it. (That’s if he can hit those open receivers)

With Hooker you lose some pre-snap reads and the deep ball threat. You gain a little more mobility threat though. (Pitt played a completely different defense against Hooker than Milton)

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

MJ > Lebron

aw hell

 

[Revived2002]

I don't blame fans for not coming to games, but unreasonable expectations from fans is destructive. Expecting a 3-7 Pruitt team decimated by defections to be great after 2 games is unreasonable. And yet here we are, with "fans" already talking about Heupel not being the guy. And yes, that does matter.

My last go round on Volnation I tried to fight the fans. It wore me down and I quit the board.

You won’t ever change their minds. Don’t let the negativity get you down. These folks are utterly unreasonable and willfully blind, but no amount of argument will change their minds.

Just have to accept that and move on!

Find joy in the small things.

Only 10 more games till we are longing for football again. Watch them and have fun!

 

[drvenner]

They didn’t turn the ball over on offense, and we got 34 points on gifts? Something wrong with that data.

That, and we had almost 400 yards in offense. We had the one ST TD, but the rest were legit and we had a potential TD taken away because of a terrible spot.

 

[VolNRaleighNC]

Anyone revising their season record prediction?

I started the season at 7-8 wins.
After BG I dropped it to 6-7 wins.
After Pitt I'm dropping it to 5-6 wins.

Still at 5-7 but 4-8 is on the table. Really think SC is a pick’em with the attrition we’ll face.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Some folks act as though every vol fan lives down Chapman highway with nothing else to do on a Saturday.

No joke. I’m in atlanta. So that’s three hours there and three hours back pissed. I’ll save my money. I have given enough over the years, I’ve taken a big step back now. I’m tired of empty promises and pissed off walks to my truck.

 

[MrVolton]

So how long is a reasonable time for a coach to decide a starter isn't cutting it? And then add to that his practice experience and the quality of the backups. What's the right answer?

What if QB1 is Tom Brady, QB2 is Shrout, and QB3 is Maurer...and Brady isn't doing well? Probably a different answer than if QB2 is Peyton Manning and QB3 is Aaron Rodgers.

We have no clue what Heupel's rating of each QB is and why. We have no idea how short anyone's leash is. We only have history. Heupel has never hung onto a failing QB if he had a choice. But again, how long before you change? One game? Two? Four? I think even the best coaches tend to err on the side of staying with the starter longer. Even Saban.

IDK, but I hope Huepel completely opens the QB competition back up all this week, and gives them all a shot next Saturday. It would be a good time for it. Then, names his ride ir die after grading everything out.

 

[drvenner]

Starting field position and offensive ineptitude on the other side goes a long way in this calculation, I imagine.
There were a few times I thought Pitt could have put that game away yesterday but their offense stalled - some of that has to do with our defense, but a lot of it is simply they are bad on offense.

Yeah, Pickett is a terrible QB and they have no athletes or playmakers. Another one of your takes to try to make us look worse than we are. At least you are consistent.