Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXVI

[KnoxLandcruiser]

JAV posted on 247 that coaches had a shouting match at each other. JG, Byrd, Wiggins all leaving. Peyton and other big donors are off the butch train

Wasn't that "post" verified to be a photoshop job?

Where there's smoke there's fire?

Deerpark at post #49

 

[drvenner]

Well quit spending time posting and get that crap off of there

You're welcome!!

 

[Mullins2010]

UT vs UGA CBS 3:30ET Next Saturday

 

[drvenner]

Trying to run the opponent out of TOs is playing not to lose. We played to win there which is exactly what should have happened if we catch the ball.

Managing the clock is not playing not to lose. It is managing the clock. Butch cannot do it. Cannot.

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

And the biggest irony of all is that without the Justin Martin factor, the Justin Martin who was savaged on this board last week, the last series at the goal line and the chance to win it presented is utterly irrelevant.

Just like M. Forman the year before at A&M.

 

[drvenner]

He loses to Georgia fire his rear end. Slap the interim tag on Shoop and let's get a coaching search fired up.

Even if he gets boat-raced, you don't fire him at this point. You fire him then and name an interim, and every commit could very well leave. You keep him and you still lose some commits, but some do stay.

 

[drvenner]

If it takes a 7-5 or 6-6 season to get him out of here then so be it. I'd rather that happen than us to 8-4 with losses to the big four. Feel exactly how I did in 2012.

I can never cheer against us. Never. Even if it means we get stuck with somebody another year.

 

[VolGee4]

Wasn't that "post" verified to be a photoshop job?

Where there's smoke there's fire?

Deerpark at post #49

I don't believe there is any way that someone knows what Peyton is thinking right now, especially a day after the game. That remark alone tells me that he doesn't know much.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Even if he gets boat-raced, you don't fire him at this point. You fire him then and name an interim, and every commit could very well leave. You keep him and you still lose some commits, but some do stay.

Making coaching decisions based on one recruiting class is how we ended up with Derek Dooley. It is without question the most short-sighted reason to keep a coach.

 

[Catbone]

I am 37 years old. We drilled them two times in the early 90's. Also, our 2003 team wasn't very good, and we beat them at the Swamp. Things happened before your 20 years.

I dont see your point

 

[VolGee4]

UT vs UGA CBS 3:30ET Next Saturday

If nothing else, Butch knows how to get good ratings. Win or lose, the man makes it interesting.

 

[Aesius]

There's no reason whatsoever to cheer against the Vols this year. I think Butch leaves no matter what, either by getting the axe or by actively seeking and getting another job.

8-4 or worse with a loss to Vandy and he's almost certainly fired. 8-4 with a Vandy win or better and he and Sexton hatch an exit strategy.

 

[KnoxLandcruiser]

I don't believe there is any way that someone knows what Peyton is thinking right now, especially a day after the game. That remark alone tells me that he doesn't know much.

Exactly my thoughts...

 

[VolGee4]

I dont see your point

You said that may have been the worst Florida team we have ever played. Just a little dramatic. It wasn't a great team, but they have been worse in my lifetime, and I am not that old.

That's the point. Let's not make everything absolute.

 

[itsme]

Even if he gets boat-raced, you don't fire him at this point. You fire him then and name an interim, and every commit could very well leave. You keep him and you still lose some commits, but some do stay.

With the new early signing period it really needs to happen mid season. You have to have the new coach in place to start lining up his assistants and start the recruiting process. The timeline for hiring has been pushed up with the new rule.

 

[drvenner]

Butch will inevitably beat UGA and LSU somehow and be are coach. Book it.

And that would be bad because....

 

[drvenner]

Waiting for the "Bruin is an excellent poster with amazing insights," post. He'd probably take the bait.

Bruin is an excellent poster with amazing incites

 

[Ericvol2096]

There's no reason whatsoever to cheer against the Vols this year. I think Butch leaves no matter what, either by getting the axe or by actively seeking and getting another job.

8-4 or worse with a loss to Vandy and he's almost certainly fired. 8-4 with a Vandy win or better and he and Sexton hatch an exit strategy.

NO reason not to root the team on then.

No way Currie is extending Butch at this point barring a 10-2 finish (LOL).


So Butch basically knows he is coaching to save face and get out of dodge without a stain on his resume.

He goes 8-4 he can always play the turnaround card and that he went 8-4 when expectations from media were low this season and people still weren't happy and not look like a total loser.

 

[drvenner]

[twitter]https://twitter.com/redditcfb/status/909513461843075072[/twitter]

I guess this is the 2017 version of sending a U-haul to someone's house.

 

[drvenner]

JAV posted on 247 that coaches had a shouting match at each other. JG, Byrd, Wiggins all leaving. Peyton and other big donors are off the butch train

Thanks, Jimmy.

 

[I4Jay]

Yuck.

Smh smh smh

 

[jordan4vols]

Lets get PJ Fleck in here and see what he can do

 

[drvenner]

Making coaching decisions based on one recruiting class is how we ended up with Derek Dooley. It is without question the most short-sighted reason to keep a coach.

I think that firing in the middle of the season is worse, but I would not be broken-hearted if it happened, if he does not right the ship against Georgia.

 

[volfaninpa]

Butch says he's pissed!

:nono:

 

[drvenner]

With the new early signing period it really needs to happen mid season. You have to have the new coach in place to start lining up his assistants and start the recruiting process. The timeline for hiring has been pushed up with the new rule.

Ah, I forgot about that. Good point.