Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXVI

[SergeantVol]

Calling him Lyle is about as cool as saying "gators" or "lamecocks."

But what if the person is a doodieface?

That's about how mature the "fans" who call him Lyle out of spite sound.

 

[The Breakerboy]

Seriously?

I just googled him, but I'm 32 I have a reason for not knowing him.

 

[SouthKnoxVOL]

I'm 33 and know exactly who he is.

 

[BruinVol]

I'm 33 and know exactly who he is.

True Fan!

 

[BigZiti09]

I don't agree with that and think it's poor management.

Poor management would be bringing him back and not giving him an extension. Would be starving out your own program.

We've got the money to fire him and we've got the money to bring him back and give him an extension.

The absolute worst thing we can do is allow him to be a lame duck coach.

 

[JacketVol]

I was told that was no rumor by someone who was there that day.

And this is also a rumor.

 

[Vols2DaWall]

Easy, any ideas on who UT would want to reach out to if Butch left? What level of coach do you feel is realistic?

 

[LifeisO&W]

And this is also a rumor.

You serious Clark?

 

[LifeisO&W]

But what if the person is a doodieface?

That's about how mature the "fans" who call him Lyle out of spite sound.

You've never seen my face.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Poor management would be bringing him back and not giving him an extension. Would be starving out your own program.

We've got the money to fire him and we've got the money to bring him back and give him an extension.

The absolute worst thing we can do is allow him to be a lame duck coach.

You just said firing him wouldn't cost us recruits so how is not extending him going to cost us recruits?

 

[BruinVol]

You just said firing him wouldn't cost us recruits so how is not extending him going to cost us recruits?

Negative recruiting would be at an all time high

 

[InVOLuntary]

Negative recruiting would be at an all time high

It will be regardless. An extension doesn't guarantee anything but increase the amount he's owed if terminated. It's not like he would be in his last year anyway. I agree a contract extension may lessen it a bit but they are already using his hot seat against him.

 

[BruinVol]

It will be regardless. An extension doesn't guarantee anything but increase the amount he's owed if terminated. It's not like he would be in his last year anyway. I agree a contract extension may lessen it a bit but they are already using his hot seat against him.

An extension slows all the negative talk down a lot IMO

 

[Crazy Ivan]

The problem is we have been outcoached way too often

We were not in this game. We were in excellent position to win this game, but sometimes players have to execute. I realize that we had a lot of young players, especially receivers, playing in their first hostile road game, but you have to execute at the highest level when you are an underdog on the road.

But you know what? Unlike a lot of you, I feel pretty good about this team. We lost because there were a lot of mistakes made on the field. A lot of the mistakes I saw Saturday I can attribute to growing pains, and those can be corrected as players are gaining experience. I see Bama as the only sure loss on our schedule. LSU showed it has flaws on both sides of the ball. UGA I think is a pretty good ball club, but they also have weaknesses. I still believe 8-4 at worst, with 9-3 being highly possible, and even an outside shot at 10-2. And I think in a season where we were replacing about 90% of our offensive production, at least 8-4 will be a decent season, will hold this recruiting class together, and set us up nicely for next season.

 

[Smokey123]

So has Canales been a bust at QB coach.?

 

[Nash_Vol97]

IF Butch goes 8-4 again then negative recruiting is going to be very high anyways. Few elite recruits are gonna want to go to play for a coach that can’t go better than 8-4 even when he has top 4 talent in the SEC and can’t even win in a down East.

 

[BruinVol]

IF Butch goes 8-4 again then negative recruiting is going to be very high anyways. Few elite recruits are gonna want to go to play for a coach that can’t go better than 8-4 even when he has top 4 talent in the SEC and can’t even win in a down East.

Disagree. You are underestimating the appeal Butch has in recruiting

 

[BigZiti09]

You just said firing him wouldn't cost us recruits so how is not extending him going to cost us recruits?

Losing too much and job insecuity costs recruits.

Firing the coach could potentially make the class stronger than what it would be if you kept him.

If he doesn't win enough to warrant an extension then we are better off firing him.

 

[jordan4vols]

Someone on the FF pointed it out but do y'all remember when Butch tried to implement the Rocky...Top (clap clap clap) after first downs. Lol. I forgot about it. Some things he has hit on and others missed on. I think that is where some of the disconnect comes from. At schools like Cincinnati, Western Mich etc that stuff is fine because it's lower college ball. You don't have to do that stuff here. Just like with the third-down music. To steal the famous line, just win baby

 

[McGeesPub]

An extension slows all the negative talk down a lot IMO

A lot of people are unhappy. Who knows if the people that matter are included in that, but an extension isn't going to slow down the negative talk unless we finish much better than we are expecting at this point. Heck, it will probably inflame it.

 

[Kingston Vol]

IF Butch goes 8-4 again then negative recruiting is going to be very high anyways. Few elite recruits are gonna want to go to play for a coach that can’t go better than 8-4 even when he has top 4 talent in the SEC and can’t even win in a down East.

Yep, and they basically had to give away season tickets this season. Fan support would be pathetic next year if Butch Jones is at the helm.

 

[jave36]

Someone on the FF pointed it out but do y'all remember when Butch tried to implement the Rocky...Top (clap clap clap) after first downs. Lol. I forgot about it. Some things he has hit on and others missed on. I think that is where some of the disconnect comes from. At schools like Cincinnati, Western Mich etc that stuff is fine because it's lower college ball. You don't have to do that stuff here. Just like with the third-down music. To steal the famous line, just win baby

You seem to bring a lot of stuff from the FF.

 

[BigZiti09]

Yep, and they basically had to give away season tickets this season. Fan support would be pathetic next year if Butch Jones is at the helm.

LOL. No they didn't. Second highest amount of season tickets sold since 2007. Only 2016 was higher than this year.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Losing too much and job insecuity costs recruits.

Already on the hotseat, Don't think it changes much but thats JMO.

Firing the coach could potentially make the class stronger than what it would be if you kept him.

Depends who you hire. A no-name coach will result in no-name recruits, JMO.

If he doesn't win enough to warrant an extension then we are better off firing him.
Again, publicly say"We're working on and extension". Privately, "No way in hell your getting an extension". Meanwhile, signing day passes. or Butch gets another job.

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[jordan4vols]

You seem to bring a lot of stuff from the FF.

Pick and choose through the other crazy. I try to bring the less crazy info if you will. Sometimes it's a lot to wade through