Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXVI

[buckfama]

Ok.. been working like a mad man so I can get free and go get my family out of Florida tomorrow. They are in Jacksonville and I don't want them there. So i haven't had a chance to comment on the game yet.. especially the defense.

Here is how I saw it.

The O left hung them out to dry in the first half. Drops, drops, and more drops. We had less than 8 minutes in TOP in the first half. The D was gassed. And the game plan didn't help any. It seems to me they had everyone playing back and reacting to the play instead of attacking it.

You can still attach the option and be disciplined in your assignment. But jumper was 6 or 8 yards back, the DL was 2 yards off the LOS and they would get 3 yards just snapping the ball. Then they started running counters, everyone sitting back reading the flow of the GT offense would start one way and the QB and a lineman going out the back door.

We never adjusted .. never adjusted to the counter, never adjusted on how the DL played the LOS, never adjusted the zone pass d we were in to help with run support.

The D played their guts out and played how the coaches asked them to. They seemed disciplined in their assignments. I remember one play where Kongbo stayed home as the play flowed the other way and he blew up their play.

It was the game plan (on O and D) that allowed GT to get such a huge TOP advantge and wear out guys out.

We played right into their hands.

Luckily our guys had enough guts and want to that they hung in there and earned this game away from GT.

I'm not disappointed in the least that they gave up so many rushing yards, because they fought and went back in and TOOK this game from GT.

Anyone that says they don't deserve this win can suck it.

Now what I do want to see is adjustments. Shoop made them last year so I'm thinking this game was an anomaly. I think they practiced one way to defend the option and thought it would work. When it didn't they weren't sure what to do..

And you can't take anything away from GT, their execution was almost flawless.

 

[millst987]

One positive is that the played Chandler over CFA. Maybe they are learning?

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Just pointing out that seeing practice and having a working knowledge of how well a coach is doing are two different things. Sorry if the nuance was hard to follow or if it caused you offense.

I just thought maybe you might want to consider the possible risk of confirmation bias there. Should have known better. My bad.

Ok smartaleck..I want to know what Mockingvol thinks about the coaches on the practice field, I will assign his opinion whatever weight I deem worthy..Is that nuanced enough for you?

 

[chavisut]

Dumb comparison

Ouch.

The GT post game hype isn't Appy level for sure.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

It was me that posted it, and certainly wasn't a lie. I'm not a fan if posting "hear say", but that's what the dude said, and like I said in my post, he could have been blowing smoke. Who knows? There's def something tho as to why he's not on D with the amount of talent we have at WR.

I didn't call you a liar.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

I want to see a lot of Guarantano Saturday. Hopefully he'll get at least one half. I also would like seeing Chandler get 10-15 carries.

Should be the Chandler show. No need to run Kelly in this game.

 

[VOL-uh-tile]

rs so.

ahhhh right you are harry. Looks like 4 of his 5 sacks came against Umass and N Tex. He'll have to show a bit more.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

QD is not noodle arm Worley.

I agree, but he also wasn't as good as I thought he would be. He could be much better, just first game jitters. We'll see

 

[VOL-uh-tile]

I predict...both of our running backs will have a 200 yard game.

 

[LA Vol]

Byrd's a WR because that's where CBJ wants him. Some people think he'd be better on D and we could use him there. That's where he expected to play. But he practiced at WR today and that's probably where he'll stay. He seems to have been taken out of the punt returner group-- at least this afternoon. Callaway probably has that job locked down, but they're trying out some of the FR there.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I agree, but he also wasn't as good as I thought he would be. He could be much better, just first game jitters. We'll see

The boy has got a cannon.

 

[Chief Vol 13]

Should be the Chandler show. No need to run Kelly in this game.

Really just want to see a lot of our backups period. Let's get out there put it on em early and start developing some depth. Cant wait for Saturday.

 

[vol2002]

Ouch.

Reality is that Georgia Tech has played in more NY6 bowls and conference championships in the last 15 years than Tennessee. They are not a scrub bottom feeder in the ACC. Certainly not elite, but they have proven plenty of times to be a very tough out.

I think our fans have undersold Georgia Tech as a program, along with beating them on a "neutral site" in their home town with a Tennessee team littered with inexperience.

I'm proud of our boys for what they did Monday night and I have no complaints. I had a great time watching it!

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

The boy has got a cannon.

Agree. But not when he throws off his back foot the way he did Monday. He didn't handle his first game well. But, he did get it together in the 4th when it mattered. Hopefully he'll be better going forward. But JG could be a gamer that shines when the lights come on. Need to see him to be sure. QD is farther away than I thought he would be. But, maybe he'll get it together.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Reality is that Georgia Tech has played in more NY6 bowls and conference championships in the last 15 years than Tennessee. They are not a scrub bottom feeder in the ACC. Certainly not elite, but they have proven plenty of times to be a very tough out.

I think our fans have undersold Georgia Tech as a program, along with beating them on a "neutral site" in their home town with a Tennessee team littered with inexperience.

I'm proud of our boys for what they did Monday night and I have no complaints. I had a great time watching it!

They've been beating GA lately, and GA is more talented than we are. At least on paper.

 

[Dooby15]

Little different, Tebow Was a bull, very hard to bring down..

It is different, but with JG in the game it would freeze up the linebackers with read option. Plus JG is a better passer than Tebow so he would have run pass option.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

ahhhh right you are harry. Looks like 4 of his 5 sacks came against Umass and N Tex. He'll have to show a bit more.

None of that hurt Myles Garret lol I think he's a draft lock with a solid season and combine.

 

[Chief Vol 13]

Agree. But not when he throws off his back foot the way he did Monday. He didn't handle his first game well. But, he did get it together in the 4th when it mattered. Hopefully he'll be better going forward. But JG could be a gamer that shines when the lights come on. Need to see him to be sure. QD is farther away than I thought he would be. But, maybe he'll get it together.

I do believe there's such a thing as a gamer. That's exactly what Dobbs was. Some guys can just mentally and physically turn it up a notch or two when the lights come on. Hopefully that's the case with Guarantano.

 

[chavisut]

Reality is that Georgia Tech has played in more NY6 bowls and conference championships in the last 15 years than Tennessee. They are not a scrub bottom feeder in the ACC. Certainly not elite, but they have proven plenty of times to be a very tough out.

I think our fans have undersold Georgia Tech as a program, along with beating them on a "neutral site" in their home town with a Tennessee team littered with inexperience.

I'm proud of our boys for what they did Monday night and I have no complaints. I had a great time watching it!

They'll finish somewhere between 3-5 in their division this year IMHO. Solid team. I haven't exactly been complaining about our performance Monday, I just don't think Georgia Tech will be competing for an ACC title.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

Ok smartaleck..I want to know what Mockingvol thinks about the coaches on the practice field, I will assign his opinion whatever weight I deem worthy..Is that nuanced enough for you?

Lord, bless his heart with patience, so that he may learn to not always react in anger :angel:

 

[VolinArizona]

It is different, but with JG in the game it would freeze up the linebackers with read option. Plus JG is a better passer than Tebow so he would have run pass option.

Lol what? A college QB with 0 pass attempts is a better thrower than a Heisman winner?

Listen, I know Tebow's accuracy wasn't elite or even very good. But he had good accuracy and plenty of zip. It's nuts to say a kid who has 0 game film is a better passer.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

They'll finish somewhere between 3-5 in their division this year IMHO. Solid team. I haven't exactly been complaining about our performance Monday, I just don't think Georgia Tech will be competing for an ACC title.

You don't have to be competing a conference title to make it to the conference championship game. Just ask UF the past two years.

 

[SmokinBob]

We take a lot for granted in this country.

I thought the same thing. Eyes leaked

 

[Dooby15]

Lol what? A college QB with 0 pass attempts is a better thrower than a Heisman winner?

Listen, I know Tebow's accuracy wasn't elite or even very good. But he had good accuracy and plenty of zip. It's nuts to say a kid who has 0 game film is a better passer.

I think JG now is a better passer than Tebow was as a freshman, that's all I was saying. He didn't win the Heisman that year. I guess I should have put the obligatory IMO at the beginning. Hopefully we'll know more about JG after Saturday. Is that better for you?

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Agree. But not when he throws off his back foot the way he did Monday. He didn't handle his first game well. But, he did get it together in the 4th when it mattered. Hopefully he'll be better going forward. But JG could be a gamer that shines when the lights come on. Need to see him to be sure. QD is farther away than I thought he would be. But, maybe he'll get it together.

I've always been on the JG is the future train. I've also been very disappointed by a TON of supposedly uber talented saviors of Tennessee football. Dormady ultimately did a great job in winnin time on a big stage in his first game as the man. I hope JG sticks around, he is one play away.