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Some Derek Barnett news:

A strong preseason by Derek Barnett has the Philadelphia Eagles excited about Derek Barnett.

The national media is excited about Barnett's potential as well.

Two NFL.com experts picked Barnett to take home NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year honors: Steve Wyche and Marc Sessler.

"Barnett is showing in the preseason how special and tenacious he is at getting after the passer," Wyche said. "Playing on that defensive front in a pass-happy division will benefit him."

Barnett had three sacks, 12 pressures, and an 18.8 pass-rush productivity this preseason, using his bend and a new inside move to get to the quarterback. He is projected to split first-team reps with Vinny Curry at right defensive end.

"It's August, and Philly's rough-and-tumble rookie already looks like a savvy veteran ready to wreak havoc," Sessler said.

Will Barnett play enough snaps to garner consideration for Rookie of the Year honors? That won't be a problem according to defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz, who is pleased with the rookie's progress.

"We expected that from him," Schwartz said. "I think a lot was made with him being a bit of a one-trick pony. He was an edge, speed rush guy in college. And he had such the ability to do that that I think he got labeled a guy that's all he could do. And I think we saw more in him than that.

"Like I said, he's played tough against the run. He's been instinctive. He's been productive when he's been out there. We could only judge him on that. But there's nothing that -- just saying we haven't been surprised by that about him. I don't know the best way to put that."
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Pederson was asked how much Barnett would play in Philadelphia’s matchup against Washington on Sunday.

“I think Derek is another one, I think he had a tremendous pre-season. He’s definitely going to be in the rotation,” Pederson said at his press conference Wednesday. “As you know, we rotate a lot of defensive linemen. Eight of those guys are usually rolling in and out of there. He’ll have a big impact, and a big part of this game. He’ll have a substantial role in this football game.”
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butchna said:
Amongst all the "he locked in on his receiver"s and "threw off his back foot"s, I didn't notice the scouting report where a first time starter kept his cool during a 14 point comeback including a 93 yard drive just to TIE the game. The reward was two overtimes against a team that couldn't be stopped offensively. ONE nonconversion, failure to generate a TD or (egad!) an interception and he's the reason we lose. That pressure cooker has chewed up many a quality QB including our very own Dobbs against A&M last year. I'm not sold that Dormady was "nervous" in the early going. You go into the game knowing that Jennings is a go to guy and mandatory target. Trying to make that happen without being allowed to develop that feel and trust a quarterback has with their dependable playmakers would make you look off-balance when it doesn't immediately happen. He appeared to be developing chemistry on the fly...especially when JJ left the game. Guarantano had his helmet on and no doubt would have entered the game if Dormady hadn't generated that first scoring drive. He was communicating with his OL and setting his receivers in the proper formation like a multi-year starter by then...it was noticeable. Afterwards you had to ride that and see if he could pull this game off...spoiler alert, he did. Definitely hasn't locked up the starting job but has earned the chance to do so. Bad QBs don't come out with a win in games like this...they just don't.
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It's when you post things like this that I love from you and want to ask you to marry me if my wife is ok with it. :yes:
 
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Orange Studs said:
It's when you post things like this that I love from you and want to ask you to marry me if my wife is ok with it. :yes:
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We'll get our wives together and work out the logistics. And NO, smut peddlers! That's not code for SWINGING! :stop:
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Byrd' passes were behind him and either high or low. Ball placement must be better for sure.
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If Dormady doesn't put two balls below the waist and behind his back hip Byrd has almost as big of a game as Callaway. On the second ball Byrd has his man toasted on a post route and had only one man between himself and the endzone. With his athletic ability I think everyone would agree with how that one would've turned out.
 
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Orange Studs said:
It's when you post things like this that I love from you and want to ask you to marry me if my wife is ok with it. :yes:
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butchna said:
We'll get our wives together and work out the logistics. And NO, smut peddlers! That's not code for SWINGING! :stop:
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buckfama said:
They could have done QD and the D a favor and ran the ball more in the first half, especially since it looked like he was nervous.

Used the run to set up the pass. I kept saying that the whole first half.
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I haven't re-watched the game but I thought GT did a pretty good job of stopping the run. We seemed to get behind in yardage early..jmo
 
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The Breakerboy said:
Didn't I post before WHY I didnt like him at QB? Did he not go out there and do exactly what I said? If I can see it I'm pretty sure these SEC DCs can see it too. Hurry him and he throws off his back foot. Plus he does not come off whoever his first read is. That's a major league problem for a junior QB to me. But I'm sure this will be flipped to something personal and this is my last post about the QB playing right now. I have ZERO expectations for this team and look forward to watching Kelly, Callaway, Warrior, Bituli, Trey Smith, Taylor and Chandler this year. #GBO
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Promises, promises.
 
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Smokey'sHandler said:
If Dormady doesn't put two balls below the waist and behind his back hip Byrd has almost as big of a game as Callaway. On the second ball Byrd has his man toasted on a post route and had only one man between himself and the endzone. With his athletic ability I think everyone would agree with how that one would've turned out.
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Re-watched fame last night. Agree Byrd could have had a big game from two of the passes that he should have been led on. I know in one he had pressure that forced that. The other I can't remember.

I know some refuse to give QD any credit but in order for Callaway to Moss someone the ball had to be placed perfectly and man did Q throw a perfect fade from the left hash to where only his guy could catch it. He did same on the deep jump ball; not perfect but only where his guy could get it. On the 50 yard TD It appeared QD pulled it on a RPO and throwing to Callwaay instead of handing to Chandler. So he saw something.

Q wasn't perfect but he showed some skills that can be successful for us. He also didn't look like some slow poke either. Looked pretty good when he kept the ball
 
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When Marshall hurt his arm and Jordan came in we stopped them easily on 3 straight plays and they punted. Maybe the kid is just special. If he stays healthy i bet GT has a good year.
 
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I definitely noticed Dormady throwing off his back foot almost all night.

There were some throws that he would do this weird thing where he would kick his front foot out to the left while throwing off his back foot. All the throws I remember like that were incompletions.

Focusing on his targets was also an issue that GT did not take advantage of.

There was one play in particular that I remember that was like 3rd and 5 that was a throw to John Kelly out of the backfield. If their LB had followed the QBs eyes like he should have I don't think that ends up being a first down and we possibly punt or have to go for it on 4th.

I will say that this was his first game starting though. He wasn't perfect and will have to progress, but I wouldn't call it a bad first game.
 
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unioncityvol said:
When Marshall hurt his arm and Jordan came in we stopped them easily on 3 straight plays and they punted. Maybe the kid is just special. If he stays healthy i bet GT has a good year.
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This made me believe we were ready for Jordan. He has a different power running style. We expected a different game.
 
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