Rumor: Chris Peterson Approached by UF

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Bumi said:
Nor has anyone claimed Chris Petersen is the best coach in the nation. He's a damned good coach, and that's all anyones argued.
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anyone arguing he could fill meyer's shoes is arguing he is better than jjust a good coach.
 
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Bumi said:
Nor has anyone claimed Chris Petersen is the best coach in the nation. He's a damned good coach, and that's all anyones argued.
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He may have done well with Boise State, but as far as recruiting and competing weekly in a major conference, his ability to succeed is a question mark.
 
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tvolsfan said:
He may have done well with Boise State, but as far as recruiting and competing weekly in a major conference, his ability to succeed is a question mark.
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Urban was a question mark before he was hired. So was SOS, Saban before LSU, Stoops before getting the Oklahoma job. Sometimes you have to take a leap of faith.
 
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I look at it like this: while Hawkins kept the broncos rolling through the big west/WAC with capable PAC 10 throwaways, he never really got them over the hump winning that big game. Georgias demolition job of them in 04 is the best example.

Petersen, on the other hand, has not had that problem and is very likely to have much better success relative to Hawkins if he moves on.
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Bumi said:
Urban was a question mark before he was hired. So was SOS, Saban before LSU, Stoops before getting the Oklahoma job. Sometimes you have to take a leap of faith.
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SOS won an ACC title at Duke. ANyways, Florida and LSU weren't really special jobs when Spurrier and Saban got there, respectively. OU was coming off 5 or 6 straight seasons that they didn't finish above .500. They weren't in great position to get a great coach. Florida is, and unless they decide they want to gamble their program strength right now, they better try to aim higher, first.
 
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droski said:
gotcha. so in your opinion it's ridiculous to say that you think a coach is better than good if he can replace urban meyer with no problem? right?
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By your measure, a HC has to be as accomplished as his predecesor in order for it to be considered a good hire.

There's two or three HC's out there as accomplished as Meyer. You're asking for the impossible.
 
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milohimself said:
I look at it like this: while Hawkins kept the broncos rolling through the big west/WAC with capable PAC 10 throwaways, he never really got them over the hump winning that big game. Georgias demolition job of them in 04 is the best example.
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I think Hawkins reeled off 3 straight one loss seasons, and the year they played Georgia was just a bad year for them, overall.
 
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tvolsfan said:
SOS won an ACC title at Duke. ANyways, Florida and LSU weren't really special jobs when Spurrier and Saban got there, respectively. OU was coming off 5 or 6 straight seasons that they didn't finish above .500. They weren't in great position to get a great coach. Florida is, and unless they decide they want to gamble their program strength right now, they better try to aim higher, first.
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And whom might that be?
 
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Even with superior talent that Boise has in comparison to the rest of the WAC most years, it still does say something that he can keep them motivated to win in routes every single week. Take any team in the country and have them play 8 or 9 against the WAC or C-USA and they'll likely have a close result of a TD or less just one time.

I'd be very interested, however, to see Boise's stats against the WAC with the 2nd string playing both sides of the ball, as that typically happens for the entire 2nd half of most of their conference games. I know it wouldn't mean everything, as the result of the game is out of question, but it gives us a better idea as to how Petersen coaches a team on a more level playing field.
 
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milohimself said:
Even with superior talent that Boise has in comparison to the rest of the WAC most years, it still does say something that he can keep them motivated to win in routes every single week. Take any team in the country and have them play 8 or 9 against the WAC or C-USA and they'll likely have a close result of a TD or less just one time.

I'd be very interested, however, to see Boise's stats against the WAC with the 2nd string playing both sides of the ball, as that typically happens for the entire 2nd half of most of their conference games. I know it wouldn't mean everything, as the result of the game is out of question, but it gives us a better idea as to how Petersen coaches a team on a more level playing field.
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I feel comfortable in saying most national championship caliber teams in the past few years would obliterate all 8 teams save maybe Fresno State and possibly Hawaii, and most years they'll probably win those games big, too.
 
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Bumi said:
And whom might that be?
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Outside of ex-NFL head coaches, Jim Harbaugh is the only name I can think of that would be more desirable than Petersen.

droski, I agree that just because CCP is good in the WAC by no means guarantees success at a place like Florida, but I would bet everything I own that all of but four or five programs in the nation would hire him in a heartbeat.
 
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milohimself said:
Outside of ex-NFL head coaches, Jim Harbaugh is the only name I can think of that would be more desirable than Petersen.

droski, I agree that just because CCP is good in the WAC by no means guarantees success at a place like Florida, but I would bet everything I own that all of but four or five programs in the nation would hire him in a heartbeat.
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You may be right, but if you are at Florida's level they should try some other people, first.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I feel comfortable in saying most national championship caliber teams in the past few years would obliterate all 8 teams save maybe Fresno State and possibly Hawaii, and most years they'll probably win those games big, too.
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That's what I'm saying. They'd probably have that close one by a TD or less.

Hell, Oklahoma who is number one in the BCS right now did just that against a WAC team at the beginning of the season.
 
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milohimself said:
That's what I'm saying. They'd probably have that close one by a TD or less.

Hell, Oklahoma who is number one in the BCS right now did just that against a WAC team at the beginning of the season.
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Boise had some games last year that were pretty close.
 
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Bumi said:
By your measure, a HC has to be as accomplished as his predecesor in order for it to be considered a good hire.

There's two or three HC's out there as accomplished as Meyer. You're asking for the impossible.
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when did i say anything about accomplishments when it comes to being a better than good coach? you are saying he can properly replace the best coach or the second best coach in the country. by that logic you think that peterson is one of the best coaches in the country. why is this so hard to understand?
 
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tvolsfan said:
You may be right, but if you are at Florida's level they should try some other people, first.
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Florida should be targeting those ex-NFL guys. I don't know many who wouldn't take it, it is arguably the best job in college. Great university, tied for most national championships and (I think) tied for the top one or two winningest programs in the last 20 years, multiple Heisman trophies and NFL players, and only a couple of other schools are in as advantageous of a recruiting position. There's no reason they shouldn't be finishing the regular season in Atlanta at least half the time.
 
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droski said:
when did i say anything about accomplishments when it comes to being a better than good coach? you are saying he can properly replace the best coach or the second best coach in the country. by that logic you think that peterson is one of the best coaches in the country. why is this so hard to understand?
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Petersen is one of the better coaches in the nation. He's top 10 at the very least, and he's a proven commodity. All this while playing with a severely limited hand.

There's no assurance that he could come in and make a seamless transition, but that applies for pretty much any hire. However, based on his track record, he's as good a good a bet as any to come in and get it done.

And it's not at all hard for me to understood. You've simply failed to properly convey your argument, which in my opinion, is flawed.
 
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