Serious QB discussion

#201
#201
Hawkeye4588 said:
I really doubt there is anyone left who thinks Milton is the guy to get us any kind of championship. But, other than the very untimely INT he is a stabilizing force and when he does run can do damage with his legs. I guess my question is do we stick with his game management and just give up on the passing game realizing our WRs are not exactly world class either or do we go ahead and give Nico his chance? My honest opinion, while likely to be unpopular, is not to throw Nico into his first start at Tuscaloosa. Start Milton but have Nico ready if our passing game is as impotent as it was tonight. We could try the two QB thing too.
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Many of us predicted exactly what we are seeing. If you’ve watched and been around (Football), your whole life, do you understand when a quarterback has the it factor. You also understand when they don’t have the it factor. We only needed to watch Milton play two games to start. The hypo era to recognize he just didn’t have it. He doesn’t consistently throw accurate passes, he doesn’t have, the moves/athleticism to consistently make dynamic plays with his legs, and the third factor for a quarterback is just the savvy. Making smart plays always knowing where the sticks are, getting descenders to jump off sides, giving you free plays, feeling the pressure coming and understanding when the ball has to get out of your hands, etc.
My question is as we are going to be so unbelievably vanilla on all sense why wouldn’t we at least be doing that with Nico and getting him some valuable in game reps? The first time somebody can’t give me a valid answer to that I’ll stop asking. But I have yet to hear a reasonable justification.
 
#202
#202
BigOrangeTrain said:
Dude seriously? We were never winning the East. Even if we had Hooker UGA would still beat us. Terrible argument.
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I think we would have a very good chance to beat Ga this year at Neyland, with good qb play, we are much better defensivly, or ol is also at this point better than last year, our dline is much better.
 
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#203
#203
cgrish said:
I would not put Nico in against Bama, but our next supposedly easy win I would start Nico. Imo we are a much better team overall than last year with the exception of qb
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We are not much better at receiver this year over last year. In fact if you're being honest you know we've taken a step backwards there too. Milton is not a good QB but too many times have I seen Keyton and others drop what should have been easy catches. We can't throw the ball period but I dont think even a good QB can fix receivers who can't catch easy catches.
 
#206
#206
VolFreakJosh said:
And you think we’ll win the East with a freshman? Lol
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No, not at this point if he had been given much more playing time earlier this year, yes I do. Nico needs game experience. It was obvious tonite Hype was afraid to let Jo pass especially after the int.
 
#207
#207
I think after the Georgia game, we will see Nico play a lot more. Joe will still get most of the snaps throughout the bowl game, but Nico will see a significant amount of playing time. Heup has tried to Joe a favor up to this point in my opinion.
 
#208
#208
CR-vol said:
We are not much better at receiver this year over last year. In fact if you're being honest you know we've taken a step backwards there too. Milton is not a good QB but too many times have I seen Keyton and others drop what should have been easy catches. We can't throw the ball period but I dont think even a good QB can fix receivers who can't catch easy catches.
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I don't really think we are better at the receivers, but adequate, but overall, I think the rest of the team is better. Jo throws the ball so hard it is difficult to catch his passes if they are not on target, and yes a very bad drop by Keyton, should have been a td. but very many inaccurate throws.
 
#209
#209
DooleyOrangePants said:
If the defense plays like they did today, then I like our chances.

But….

If the offense plays like it did today, it doesn’t matter how good the D plays. Bama will put up enough to put us away. We have to have some consistent production and we just aren’t getting that. Receivers have been off for a while (minus Bru) and Joe has been erratic. Playcalling has been limited because of the above two - they’ve got a week to figure it out.
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Arkansas held Bama to 24 points after Bama went up 21-7……

Next week will be a nasty defensive game. There is nothing about Bama’s offense that scares me with our defense playing the way it is.
 
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#211
#211
cgrish said:
I don't really think we are better at the receivers, but adequate, but overall, I think the rest of the team is better. Jo throws the ball so hard it is difficult to catch his passes if they are not on target, and yes a very bad drop by Keyton, should have been a td. but very many inaccurate throws.
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Yes, every week there are inaccurate throws. Everyone except for QB and receivers has improved.

I seriously think also Keyton drops a sure touchdown every week. And he's not the only one. Even if they've got a little too much zing on them if they're anywhere close you gotta catch the damn ball no excuses...
 
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#212
#212
Hawkeye4588 said:
I really doubt there is anyone left who thinks Milton is the guy to get us any kind of championship. But, other than the very untimely INT he is a stabilizing force and when he does run can do damage with his legs. I guess my question is do we stick with his game management and just give up on the passing game realizing our WRs are not exactly world class either or do we go ahead and give Nico his chance? My honest opinion, while likely to be unpopular, is not to throw Nico into his first start at Tuscaloosa. Start Milton but have Nico ready if our passing game is as impotent as it was tonight. We could try the two QB thing too.
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We stick with Milton and let the defense and running attack carry Tennessee this season and then transition to Immaleava in 2024.
 
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milton is 5-1 as a starter this year, it could be better it could be worse, if there is one thing im certain of is no qb change is even remotely close to happening parring major injury. and its best to move on from this talking point
 
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#216
You know, his stats would have been much much better if the DB's don't interfere. If Keyton doesn't drop a TD, and squirrel doesn't trip over a blade of grass.
 
#217
#217
Unless he gets hurt, it's Joe going forward. But just know, he's not going to beat anyone on his passing. We won today mostly on the RB room, Dee Williams and the defense. As for Alabama or Ga, if the last 3 (RB, ST & D) don't go off....not happening. Forget it....try to enjoy watching it though. While, it's a team sport, Joe's not pulling his weight at this point (receivers included) - so all that pressure is now on everyone else. Over the last 8 games....IMO, he's regressed. Sad, there are some good players out there making plays, kinda unfair to have 5-6th year Senior QB playing like he is.

I'd like to see Gaston get some time.
 
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#218
#218
K-town Vol Fan said:
We aren't benching our QB heading to Bama coming off a win against a good team. There's less than 0% chance.
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So the entire world knows that Milton can’t run the offense efficiently - his QBR is sinking like a rock.

And today his contribution was mostly handing the ball off.

Serious Question:

Are you telling VN that a freshman QB can’t at least meet Milton’s performance today?
 
#222
#222
cgrish said:
I don't really think we are better at the receivers, but adequate, but overall, I think the rest of the team is better. Jo throws the ball so hard it is difficult to catch his passes if they are not on target, and yes a very bad drop by Keyton, should have been a td. but very many inaccurate throws.
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The receivers were having to stop and make adjustments and still couldnt catch his passes.
 
#223
#223
I feel like the coaches are trying to save Nico from looking bad due to an overall lack of talent on the team this year. There’s no way he would actually be worse than Joe at running the offense. But, I think there’s a pretty low ceiling to what the offense can be this year.
 
#225
#225
I still say Milton could have be perfect with 500 yards, 5 TDs and no interceptions and some of you would still find something negative to say about him.

Some of you would rather be right than to have the team, you supposedly support, win a game.
 
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