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#326
#326
luthervol said:
lol....Address them all.
Elderly parents? Nope, not responsible.
Sick neighbor? Nope, not responsible.
Orphaned child? Nope, not responsible.
Disabled vet? Nope, not responsible.

You do you.

My belief is that personal responsibility encompasses a broader spectrum.
It's a person's individual responsibility to care for those they love and even those they do not.......call me crazy.
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You are crazy . It’s not your responsibility and I can prove it . If all those things were your responsibility , you would be taking care of all of them around you , fixing all their problems , and telling your wife what she can and can’t do or say .
 
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AshG said:
The quick and dirty:
  • Homeless people either have to eat extremely cheap food (often high in simple carbs and low nutritional value) or in high quantities when they do get to eat. The metabolism of the body changes to store energy rather than burning it. This causes fat cells to multiply and fill to store energy for later. I learned this while working with a ministry with high homeless participation.
  • Cell phones are the most efficient ways to find jobs, food, housing, etc. If you are on the street/in a camp or vehicle or are itinerant, you won't be able to give potential employers a stable phone number unless you have one you can take with you. I experienced this personally when my family was homeless and living out of cheap motels in the summer of 2020.

More in depth:
Why Would a Person Experiencing Homelessness Have a Cell Phone? - Homeless Children's Education Fund
Why Do Homeless People Have Cell Phones? - FAMVIN NewsEN
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3514718/
One-Third of US Homeless Are Obese
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Nice explanation.....makes sense
 
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#333
luthervol said:
So being self responsible means you take care of your elderly parents?

If so, you are starting to get the idea.
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I gave you kids and parents . I was hoping you would get the idea , all the others you are mixing responsibly with charity except for your wife .. I’m still interested in how you are responsible for her and she’s not .
edit : I’d also put a qualifier on the kids and parents , I am not responsible for my adult kids or adult parents that aren’t elderly or In need of help.
 
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#335
0nelilreb said:
I gave you kids and parents . I was hoping you would get the idea , all the others you are mixing responsibly with charity except for your wife .. I’m still interested in how you are responsible for her and she’s not .
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I view it as we are responsible for not only ourselves, but for each other.
Same with kids, parents, grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins, siblings, second cousins, neighbors, etc....
 
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#336
0nelilreb said:
I gave you kids and parents . I was hoping you would get the idea , all the others you are mixing responsibly with charity except for your wife .. I’m still interested in how you are responsible for her and she’s not .
edit : I’d also put a qualifier on the kids and parents , I am not responsible for my adult kids or adult parents that aren’t elderly or In need of help.
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I love the bolded.........responsibility is on a continuum.
Between all people.
 
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#337
luthervol said:
I view it as we are responsible for not only ourselves, but for each other.
Same with kids, parents, grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins, siblings, second cousins, neighbors, etc....
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So you are responsible for the bad decisions they make as well as the good ones ? You see where I’m going to go with this , right ? 😉
 
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#339
luthervol said:
I love the bolded.........responsibility is on a continuum.
Between all people.
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It’s really not ,the only thing on the continuum is how subjective you are going to view it . Self responsibility comes first . You can’t be responsible for others if you aren’t self responsible first . There’s not a problem that we have that can’t be fixed if everyone was more self responsible.
 
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0nelilreb said:
So you are responsible for the bad decisions they make as well as the good ones ? You see where I’m going to go with this , right ? 😉
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I'm partially responsible for the bad ones as well as the good ones.......continuum.
If my 1st grader does not do their homework, it's on me.
If my 6th grader does not do their homework, it's on both of us.
If my senior does not do their homework, it's on them.
 
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#342
luthervol said:
I'm partially responsible for the bad ones as well as the good ones.......continuum.
If my 1st grader does not do their homework, it's on me.
If my 6th grader does not do their homework, it's on both of us.
If my senior does not do their homework, it's on them.
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If your neighbor shoots a homeless woman then it’s on you for not helping your neighbor before he shot her , and not renting the woman a place to live because you are responsible for them both ? 🤔
Don’t think I haven’t noticed you tap dancing around the wife one either 😂
 
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#343
#343
0nelilreb said:
It’s really not ,the only thing on the continuum is how subjective you are going to view it . Self responsibility comes first . You can’t be responsible for others if you aren’t self responsible first . There’s not a problem that we have that can’t be fixed if everyone was more self responsible.
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It really is....
Again, we can agree to disagree.
I'm a huge proponent of self responsibility........
I'm also a huge proponent of the concept that self responsibility encompasses degrees of responsibility for others.
 
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0nelilreb said:
If your neighbor shoots a homeless woman then it’s on you for not helping your neighbor before he shot her , and not renting the woman a place to live because you are responsible for them both ? 🤔
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A miniscule bit, yea....as a member of society.
If the homeless woman was my cousin, I would be more responsible.
If the homeless woman was my mother, I would be even more responsible.
 
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#346
luthervol said:
It really is....
Again, we can agree to disagree.
I'm a huge proponent of self responsibility........
I'm also a huge proponent of the concept that self responsibility encompasses degrees of responsibility for others.
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That’s called charity when you start including others not responsibility . You can’t say you we are responsible for others actions . It doesn’t work that way nor should it .
 
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#347
#347
luthervol said:
A miniscule bit, yea....as a member of society.
If the homeless woman was my cousin, I would be more responsible.
If the homeless woman was my mother, I would be even more responsible.
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And if she wasn’t ? You are still responsible for her being homeless because you are a member of this society ?
 
#348
#348
0nelilreb said:
That’s called charity when you start including others not responsibility . You can’t say you we are responsible for others actions . It doesn’t work that way nor should it .
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Sure it does, and should.

Is taking care of a sick and elderly parent a responsibility or charity?
Make it a sick and elderly uncle with no other family, responsibility or charity?
 
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#350
luthervol said:
Sure it does, and should.

Is taking care of a sick and elderly parent a responsibility or charity?
Make it a sick and elderly uncle with no other family, responsibility or charity?
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You have been on the parent and family for a while now but are getting away from the others you mentioned . Tap dancing around
 
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