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#351
0nelilreb said:
You have been on the parent and family for a while now but are getting away from the others you mentioned . Tap dancing around
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I'm trying to show you degrees and continuums.
How about the elderly uncle with no other family?
 
#353
#353
0nelilreb said:
This is where people call you crazy . We’re you also responsible for the actions of Ted Bundy, Elvis , Trump , Jimmi Hendrix , Lee Harvey?
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About as close to not at all as is possible. You can approach zero but never fully touch it.
 
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#354
luthervol said:
I'm trying to show you degrees and continuums.
How about the elderly uncle with no other family?
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You are using family to show degrees of responsibility, I’ve already agreed to that . Unless I’m missing the point you also think we are to some degree responsible for everyone that lives in this society because we belong to this society .
 
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#355
luthervol said:
About as close to not at all as is possible. You can approach zero but never fully touch it.
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I can touch zero .. I had no input into any of their actions . If I had input I would still say they made their own choice and it has nothing to do with me being responsible. You do have some unique and hippy( ish ) ideologies . Lol
 
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#356
0nelilreb said:
You are using family to show degrees of responsibility, I’ve already agreed to that . Unless I’m missing the point you also think we are to some degree responsible for everyone that lives in this society because we belong to this society .
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Answer the elderly uncle with no family question, and then we can move to the next degree.
You obviously see the reality. Of course you have some personal responsibility to care for an elderly uncle with no other family.
 
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#358
Rasputin_Vol said:
And you ignore the point I made earlier. The selling point on getting these loans is that you will be able to pay them back once you get in your career. The propaganda leads them to believe that high student loan debt is just a price of getting a higher education.

I managed to survive and had my debt to a minimum. But if I knew then what I know and/or if I would have had a different group of people advising me in high school. my entire school choice would have been different. I would have gone to 2 year community college to get my engineering prerequisites and then transferred to a 4 year to get my bachelor's. The people around me were not engineering majors, were not even college grads for most (I was first in my family) or were too caught up in the denigration of community colleges over universities.
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I am genuinely sincere in this post. Have you thought about speaking to students about this subject? Career days, stem clubs, etc.
I think you could be a positive force for change if you did.
 
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#359
luthervol said:
Answer the elderly uncle with no family question, and then we can move to the next degree.
You obviously see the reality. Of course you have some personal responsibility to care for an elderly uncle with no other family.
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Not if that uncle was a child molester or mass murderer or just a nasty person in general . See the difference in responsibility and charity ?
 
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#360
0nelilreb said:
Not if that uncle was a child molester or mass murderer or just a nasty person in general . See the difference in responsibility and charity ?
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Not really. You're only reinforcing that it's on a continuum.
If it helps, look at it this way, it is part of your personal responsibility to be charitable.
 
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#361
luthervol said:
Not really. You're only reinforcing that it's on a continuum.
If it helps, look at it this way, it is part of your personal responsibility to be charitable.
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No it’s not , it’s my choice to be charitable. If I was responsible for him, then I would be required to help him in some way .
 
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#363
0nelilreb said:
No it’s not , it’s my choice to be charitable. If I was responsible for him, then I would be required to help him in some way .
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lol.......It's a person's choice if they are personally responsible, it's not a requirement.
 
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#368
luthervol said:
Sure I do. Just the same as you feel you are able to decide that people should just be responsible for themselves.
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You can’t make me responsible for another human.

Individuals are responsible for themselves. How they choose to take that on dictates their path in life.
 
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#369
luthervol said:
Thanks, but I covered that when I said you can view it this way "personal responsibility demands charity".
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You blew it when you said we are all responsible for each other’s decisions to to degree , simply because we belong to the same society . My responsibility doesn’t include a demand for charity because I am not responsible for everyone and their decisions .
 
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allvol123 said:
You can’t make me responsible for another human.

Individuals are responsible for themselves. How they choose to take that on dictates their path in life.
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So says you.
You can be and are made legally responsible for your children, so your whole premise is bunk.
 
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#371
0nelilreb said:
You blew it when you said we are all responsible for each other’s decisions to to degree , simply because we belong to the same society . My responsibility doesn’t include a demand for charity because I am not responsible for everyone and their decisions .
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It's more the results of those decisions for which we are responsible.
I guess at this point I should just pity your elderly uncle. (but I know better)
 
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