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[hog88]

I haven't intentionally taken what rightfully should be someone else's. I'd say I'm not greedy. It's a subjective call.

You're also not the government.

 

[luthervol]

And how does “girls mature faster than boys” factor?

The more relevant question is "who gets to answer that question and why?"

 

[hog88]

It depends on circumstances. We can also say fair market value for labor, use of resources, etc. Merriam Webster says greed's an 'excessive' desire for more than is needed. Excessive is open to interpretation.

Yes it most certainly is, same with greed. Using Luther's definition anyone with more than the basic necessities of life is greedy.

 

[85SugarVol]

The only reason we are here, having this conversation, is because we all have more than we need.

It’s awful.

 

[EasternVol]

Bullshot, we used to admire the Titans of industry, the men who built America. Now you want to disparage them because they were greedy. Their greed built this country.

The Robber Barons? They did some good but they had their downside too (monopolies, working conditions, etc.)

 

[hog88]

The only reason we are here, having this conversation, is because we all have more than we need.

It’s awful.

We're all a bunch of greedy bastards.

 

[hog88]

The Robber Barons? They did some good but they had their downside too (monopolies, working conditions, etc.)

I agree with that. Geed can make men do some awful things. But it can also lead to amazing results.

 

[EasternVol]

Yet we all have more than we need. So by your definition you’re agreeing with me that we are all needy. Right?

Needy or greedy? We're all needy. We're not all greedy.

 

[hog88]

Needy or greedy? We're all needy. We're not all greedy.

Wouldn't that depend on who's definition you're using?

 

[EasternVol]

Elaborate…the average American has far more than they need. How is that not greed?

It's not excessive in the context of our standard of living. That's not to say that there aren't some greedy folks out there: rich, poor and in between.

 

[luthervol]

Yes it most certainly is, same with greed. Using Luther's definition anyone with more than the basic necessities of life is greedy.

Absolutely false!!!!!!!!!!
I never once said anything even remotely like that.
No definition I provided said anything like that.

 

[85SugarVol]

Needy or greedy? We're all needy. We're not all greedy.

That is completely subjective, and depends on your own preconceived notions.

 

[hog88]

Absolutely false!!!!!!!!!!
I never once said anything even remotely like that.
No definition I provided said anything like that.

Yeah ya did.

 

[luthervol]

It's not excessive in the context of our standard of living. That's not to say that there aren't some greedy folks out there: rich, poor and in between.

Good luck!!

But I appreciate the attempt.....you're doing much better than I was (but they are unable to hear what I say - it's probably me)

 

[luthervol]

That is completely subjective, and depends on your own preconceived notions.

Of course it's subjective.

 

[Vol8188]

It's not excessive in the context of our standard of living. That's not to say that there aren't some greedy folks out there: rich, poor and in between.

The average American is in the top 1% of the world. That’s not excessive?

 

[EasternVol]

Wouldn't that depend on who's definition you're using?

Yes, it goes back to what is 'excessive'.

 

[85SugarVol]

We're all a bunch of greedy bastards.

Indeed.

If I can drag more food back to the cave than my family needs to eat - what can I do with that excess?

 

[luthervol]

Yeah ya did.

Nope.
You're clueless once again.

 

[Vol8188]

Good luck!!

But I appreciate the attempt.....you're doing much better than I was (but they are unable to hear what I say - it's probably me)

You intentionally say nothing.

 

[Vol8188]

The only reason we are here, having this conversation, is because we all have more than we need.

It’s awful.

Disgusting, really.

 

[hog88]

Yes, it goes back to what is 'excessive'.

If you are going to label someone or a group of people greedy then you should be able to define excessive as it pertains to them.

 

[EasternVol]

That is completely subjective, and depends on your own preconceived notions.

We all need food, shelter, etc. Some are content with very little materially.

 

[85SugarVol]

Of course it's subjective.

Yes.

Did you see my question about Society? You usually love discussing Society and it’s role.

 

[luthervol]

If you are going to label someone or a group of people greedy then you should be able to define excessive as it pertains to them.

So desperately looking for that black and white two-dimensional world.
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