Student Suspended For Removing Mexican Flag

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#76
"i am, however, married to somebody from another country who is now a legal citizen."

There you go - I was half right.

And for the record - I've never seen a flag flown at a school in the U.S. other than the American flag. Having flags of many nations in some middle school or elementary school's history teachers room is completely different than this situation (having just a random Mexico flag hung in a general commons area that everyone has to pass) - or even stuff like that when the Olympics rolls around for elementary school to educate kids..
 
#77
#77
you were nowhere close to right.. you said illegal... no time in her life has she been an illegal person in this country.

but you were right as far as never seeing another flag being flown in a school. i've never seen it either. but if the kids in the school want to fly their native flag along with the american flag, and the administration okays it, i just don't see how it's a big deal. most flags aren't a hate symbol, but a symbol of culture. i just don't see the harm in it.

i don't think, we're in america is a valid complaint. i'd bet we have more immigrants in this country than in any other country. accordingly, we can't have the same mindset that we're all the same, because we're not. there's not one set culture in the United States because of that.
 
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#78
as far as this situation goes, the flag or anything else for that matter shouldn't be hung in the hallways without consent from those in charge. the handling of this situation could've been better
 
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Cash Vallin said:
as far as this situation goes, the flag or anything else for that matter shouldn't be hung in the hallways without consent from those in charge. the handling of this situation could've been better
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Was it done by a student, or the admin.?

Asked earlier and no one replied.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
you were nowhere close to right.. you said illegal... no time in her life has she been an illegal person in this country.

but you were right as far as never seeing another flag being flown in a school. i've never seen it either. but if the kids in the school want to fly their native flag along with the american flag, and the administration okays it, i just don't see how it's a big deal. most flags aren't a hate symbol, but a symbol of culture. i just don't see the harm in it.

i don't think, we're in america is a valid complaint. i'd bet we have more immigrants in this country than in any other country. accordingly, we can't have the same mindset that we're all the same, because we're not. there's not one set culture in the United States because of that.
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I was right in the fact that you had close ties with someone not originally from the U.S. - it was way too easy to spot - thus nothing is going to change your mindset on the subject and no point in arguing with you about it then - even if you were proven to be 100% wrong.

Like someone said earlier - try this stunt, in a PUBLIC SCHOOL in some other country - you better hope no one saw you do it or you may get your a** beat.

You don't do this in a public place - no matter how diverse the country is - for respect of the country you're in basically. (under normal circumstances of course - i.e. if some huge natural disaster hit Canada or any country for that matter and devastated the place - no one would oppose hanging the flag to honor that nation).
 
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#82
you're right, you won't convince me otherwise on this, like i won't convince you otherwise.

but this whole try this in another country quite frankly is getting old. this is the US. we have tolerance. i'd bet we have more immigrants in this country than in any other country. accordingly, we can't have the same mindset that we're all the same, because we're not. there's not one set culture in the United States because of that.
 
#83
#83
I don't have a problem with legal citizens showing their pride in their heritage, but not sure this is the proper way. T shirts, hats, flags on your property, color of your house...

Not sure what the full story is, but what happened is ridiculous.
 
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Wapedia - Wiki: Immigration to the United States

As of 2006, the United States accepts more legal immigrants as permanent residents than all other countries in the world combined. [1] Since the liberalization of immigration policy in 1965, [2] the number of first- generation immigrants living in the United States has quadrupled, [3] from 9.6 million in 1970 to about 38 million in 2007. [4]

that alone tells the story for me.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
you're right, you won't convince me otherwise on this, like i won't convince you otherwise.

but this whole try this in another country quite frankly is getting old. this is the US. we have tolerance. i'd bet we have more immigrants in this country than in any other country. accordingly, we can't have the same mindset that we're all the same, because we're not. there's not one set culture in the United States because of that.
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To go along with what I said above. I partially agree with your point. (which is amazing) But we also come together under 1 flag, and swear to it, at least most do.
 
#86
#86
yeah, i get ya. a kid just posting the flag seems to be a slap in the face and one trying to start a problem, like if they posted anything else in the hallway without permission.

but going though the administration, and getting it their ok, isn't a big deal
 
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BeecherVol said:
To go along with what I said above. I partially agree with your point. (which is amazing) But we also come together under 1 flag, and swear to it, at least most do.
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and that's fine... the american flag will still be front and center
 
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BeecherVol said:
I do have a question. (knowing your point of view)

Would a hispannic student in the same school get 3 days for taking down the American flag? IYO
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in texas, i would think so... but again, i think we need more information about this. that article wasn't very thorough.
 
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I don't think the kid handled it correctly...but at the same time if some other person isn't suspeneded if they took down the American flag, then there is a problem.

I'd say it being in the hallway isn't exactly the same as it being on the flagpole in front of the school either. I'm not Mexico-apologist by any means but fight the actual fight and don't get worked up over every little thing you see.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
Bottom line - we're still our own nation despite being so accepting of so many different backgrounds (and people who come here should respect that) - not just a a bunch of nations combined to one - and we should have better national pride.
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Perfectly said.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
don't know the whole situation based on that article... the flag shouldn't have been taken down, though... an american flag shouldn't have been taken down... any flag shouldn't have been taken down. it's not a symbol of hate. it's a symbol of the culture of the students at that school.
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The more and more I think about this topic I'm closer to this approach. Now, if they were to hang it by the American (normal, not like that stupid fake pic) as to put them on equal importance. And represent them that way. THEN, wed have a problem and I'd encourage students to take that thing down. But, I have a feeling it was more "high-school" drama BS, then a stance for rights brought about by the misrepresentation of our colors.
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Orangekush423 said:
The more and more I think about this topic I'm closer to this approach. Now, if they were to hang it by the American (normal, not like that stupid fake pic) as to put them on equal importance. And represent them that way. THEN, wed have a problem and I'd encourage students to take that thing down. But, I have a feeling it was more "high-school" drama BS, then a stance for rights brought about by the misrepresentation of our colors.
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I don't think that pick is fake. Either way, I don't know why the Mexican flag is shown. Couldn't that be offensive to other cultures? I understand showing different flags in a diversity exhibit or multicultural class, but this is different. To me, it's almost like the school is claiming a tie to Mexico, which is wrong, in my opinion.
 
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Once again, I don't think the kid should have taken down the flag. I do, however, find it wrong that the flag was displayed like that.
 
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#97
How do you all feel about the guy from the NO Saints that displayed a Haitian flag multiple times from the NFC champ game and @ the SUPERBOWL, where MILLIONS and MILLIONS of people saw it? After all, its "American" Football.
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