Student Suspended For Removing Mexican Flag

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Cash Vallin said:
what do you mean, where?
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As they say in real estate. "Location, Location, Location."

If this flag was raised in a legal citizens front yard, there is no story.

Because its probably never taken down.

Being where it was made it a story, because it was.
 
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#127
volinbham said:
your point in saying pro-teams are publicly funded is to equate it to a public org (school) flying a flag vs. an athlete on a pro-team (which is a private entity).

the pro-teams are private entities pure and simple.
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yes, they are private in the sense of player decision, coaches, etc... but as far as most pro teams being in a city, it is very much tax driven, especially at the onset.
 
#128
#128
when Mexico starts funding US schools I will have no issue with their flag being out there
 
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BeecherVol said:
As they say in real estate. "Location, Location, Location."

If this flag was raised in a legal citizens front yard, there is no story.

Because its probably never taken down.

Being where it was made it a story, because it was.
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ok, i got ya. wasn't sure what you were saying.

but you know, i don't agree with the way the situation was handled. i'm just talking in a broader sense when people in charge give the OK to do something, why should we care?

it doesn't affect us one way or another.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
as long as it's on their property.... but by gosh if kids get together and ask those in charge to fly another flag beside the american flag, that's just downright unacceptable.

i'm not sure there is a difference.
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Obviously someone thought there was an issue. So in their minds there was a difference.
 
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#131
There was an issue because they wanted it to be an issue. It isn't a crime.

A flag in itself doesn't cause the issue. It's people's reactions to it.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
ok, i got ya. wasn't sure what you were saying.

but you know, i don't agree with the way the situation was handled. i'm just talking in a broader sense when people in charge give the OK to do something, why should we care?

it doesn't affect us one way or another.
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Thats just it tho. Somebody did care about it. From the minimal facts that are out, another student took it down.

It wasn't taken down by an outsider. At least from the info released.
 
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BeecherVol said:
Thats just it tho. Somebody did care about it. From the minimal facts that are out, another student took it down.

It wasn't taken down by an outsider. At least from the info released.
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Then lets all sit inside and do nothing all day. People are always going to have an issue with something somebody else does.

When it's something as trivial as a flag, it's time to move on.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
There was an issue because they wanted it to be an issue. It isn't a crime.

A flag in itself doesn't cause the issue. It's people's reactions to it.
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Who has the ability to decide how one should react, this is the PC world. Anyone could take this in any direction they wanted to and have a legit grip.

"Can of Worms" IMO
 
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Cash Vallin said:
Then lets all sit inside and do nothing all day. People are always going to have an issue with something somebody else does.

When it's something as trivial as a flag, it's time to move on.
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(Assuming the story is correct)

The school should have denied the request to hang the flag. And encouraged the students to wear their country's colors to school instead. Then if there is any outside issue you deal with it. The school took a chance on the public display, and I have a hard time imagining that they thought everyone was gonna cool with it.
 
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kptvol said:
Don't really care one way or the other about the rules here. However, a flag is a symbol of national pride, not so much culture. If you want to celebrate your heritage, there are plenty of ways to do that without simultaneously praising the country you left and disrespecting the one that's allowing you to do all that.
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Exactly.
 
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#137
Has anyone stopped to think that it was probably Cinco de Mayo when he took it down?

It's not like they were flying it outside the school above the American flag. Just celebrating a Mexican holiday. No one gets offended when someone has a shamrock shirt or flag on St. Patricks day.
 
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BeecherVol said:
(Assuming the story is correct)

The school should have denied the request to hang the flag. And encouraged the students to wear their country's colors to school instead. Then if there is any outside issue you deal with it. The school took a chance on the public display, and I have a hard time imagining that they thought everyone was gonna cool with it.
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what on earth is the difference??
 
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zach0105 said:
Has anyone stopped to think that it was probably Cinco de Mayo when he took it down?

It's not like they were flying it outside the school above the American flag. Just celebrating a Mexican holiday. No one gets offended when someone has a shamrock shirt of flag on St. Patricks day.
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wow. great example! they color the water green for crying out loud. where's the outcry? people have irish flags on PUBLIC grounds all over the place. Where's the outcry????
 
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zach0105 said:
Has anyone stopped to think that it was probably Cinco de Mayo when he took it down?

It's not like they were flying it outside the school above the American flag. Just celebrating a Mexican holiday. No one gets offended when someone has a shamrock shirt of flag on St. Patricks day.
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You see a lot of these on St. Patrick's Day?

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#145
it doesn't disrespect the US at all... It's just the celebration of another culture. nothing wrong with it at all.

Zach, just brilliant stuff. There was ZERO outcry on this board on St. Pattys Day.
 
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Deborah DeSimone of Millbury, Mass., waves her Irish flag during the St. Patrick's Day Parade in Worcester, Mass., Sunday.

Paul Kapteyn/Worcester Telegram & Gazette/AP
 
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Cash Vallin said:
it doesn't disrespect the US at all... It's just the celebration of another culture. nothing wrong with it at all.

Zach, just brilliant stuff. There was ZERO outcry on this board on St. Pattys Day.
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Saint Patrick's Day is a Catholic holiday. He just so happens to be the patron saint of Ireland. Even so, I see a lot shamrocks, but I don't recall people flying Irish flags.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
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Deborah DeSimone of Millbury, Mass., waves her Irish flag during the St. Patrick's Day Parade in Worcester, Mass., Sunday.

Paul Kapteyn/Worcester Telegram & Gazette/AP
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Clearly the beer goggles and Dr. Seuss hat indicate she is very seriously celebrating the nation of Ireland. And I assume she is a principal and later hung that flag prominently in her school.
 
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