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The White Debonair
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God also creates every single human on the planet. OE can probably tell you the verse where he states He knit us in our mothers wombs and numbered the hairs on our heads. That's why abortion is muder. Because life begins at conception when your soul is given to you by God.
I think Christians have a better understanding of the fear portion than the world does.
Almost the entire old testament is in the koran. They also believe in the virgin birth of Christ. They believe like the jews that he was only a prophet not Messiah.
ah so any child that dies before birth is because God wanted it to happen? In essence, God deemed it not worthy of his world?
makes sense because that is how religion operates
so you'd be ok with schools teaching the Muslim version and skipping the Christian one?
Whose rules? Once again, I have answered all questions asked, it is just not the answer you seem to want so you keep trying to come from a different direction. The answer to all these questions are in the words of the Bible even if you choose to discount them as non factual.
Let's clarify 2 things. Christians better understand God because we actually study His. Word and try to live a life that is pleasing to Him instead of spending every second of our lives trying to satisfy the worldly lusts. Whether you want to believe it or not you have a God too....he's in the mirror. So you live your life trying to please yours and ill live mine trying to please mine.
I have never said in this thread that I believe everyones children should be forced to learn any religion in schools. I just don't think they should be force fed a half baked theory about the origin of life and have it presented to them as fact. to regress...again...there is absolutely not a shred of evidence to support the origin of life either way. I'm not trying to indoctrinate your kids...don't try to teach mine they came from "primordial soup".
So marcus, should science classes not present the evidence/facts they have discovered to this point at all? Even if the overall concept is presented as a theory (which it is)?
New article on the topic today.
War Of The Worlds: When Science, Politics Collide : NPR
Romans 1 : 20......no one has an excuse
Pj, have you ever read Thomas Paine's Commin Sense? Its his essays on religion which he admits is his personal conclusions and everyone needs to come to their own but as the title suggests it should be onvious to all. He logically breaks down the holes in concepts such as salvation and even things such as why did God create an evil counterpart such as the devil, cast him in into a pit, and then let him out again to torment his creation.
I think you would enjoy it.
Honestly all I think all Chistians should read it to help them "think critically".
The problem with the verse you quotes is that it states that there is no excuse for not believing in a God of some sort by looking out at nature. Pretty much the same argument as when a non-believer as a Christian, "Is there an proof for the existence of God?" And the Christian answers, "Just look outside..." It is another thing completely, to expect a human to (from merely studying nature) deduce the story of Jesus Christ or even essence of God which is required for salvation.
God also creates every single human on the planet. OE can probably tell you the verse where he states He knit us in our mothers wombs and numbered the hairs on our heads. That's why abortion is muder. Because life begins at conception when your soul is given to you by God.
time and place matter as I have tried to point out, what the verse says is that no one is without excuse, meaning even if a person has never heard the gospel he/she will still be held accountable for acknowledging God, it is not fair in the eyes of humans but God is not worried about that.......every one keeps cross referencing salvation through Christ as if it is the standard in every situation which it is not