The 107th United States Open Championship

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#103
watching him on his back 9 yesterday, he looked like he had righted the ship so to speak...and he sounded pretty confident after his round........

would like to see him vindicate last year....
 
#104
#104
jakez4ut said:
exactly.....did you see him late yesterday? took 10 minutes to set up for hte put, and left it a foot short.

we waited thru all that posturing to watch you leave it short?

i promise you i could have done that in about 10 seconds.:thumbsup:

but no one dislikes Furyk at the end of the day. plus he's the hometown kid this weekend.
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And Furyk put the hammer on Faldo in his first Ryder Cup singles match
 
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#105
jakez4ut said:
watching him on his back 9 yesterday, he looked like he had righted the ship so to speak...and he sounded pretty confident after his round........

would like to see him vindicate last year....
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this is pretty typical sentiment for Phil. I'm shocked given that he's the most disengenuous guy out there. Smiles for the camera and plays like a swashbuckler, but the remainder of the field can't stand the guy. Something's rotten in Denmark.
 
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#106
BigPapaVol said:
And Furyk put the hammer on Faldo in his first Ryder Cup singles match
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didn't know that. personally, i don't have any problem with Furyk, and i wouldn't be upset if he won.
i just thought it was ironic that he put so much effort in to the line, and just didn't hit it. i mean that's something that i do, not a PGA professional.:thumbsup:
 
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#107
I heard Peter Oosterhuis say last night that he would like to see Bubba Watson make a run so that folks could discover that he is much more than a bomber. Great observation I thought. I'll be pulling for Bubber to do well this weekend...
 
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jakez4ut said:
didn't know that. personally, i don't have any problem with Furyk, and i wouldn't be upset if he won.
i just thought it was ironic that he put so much effort in to the line, and just didn't hit it. i mean that's something that i do, not a PGA professional.:thumbsup:
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we all do it. he's a putting machine, I'd just like to see less pre-putt routine and 10 minute green reading sessions (from everyone, not just Furyk)
 
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#110
#112
#112
I've been watching for about an hour...

Conditions are brutal! The ball won't stop rolling on (then off) the greens. The post-round comments should be quite interesting.
 
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#116
GAVol said:
I hate it when the USGA does this.
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My rant earlier shows my complete agreement.

The USGA crows about identifying the best golfer, but that's just crap. Taking away the short game with brutal rough and effectively disallowing recovery from errant shots makes the show a tee shot and 10 footer contest. That's why guys like Lee Janzen and Andy North can win 2 of them each.
 
#117
#117
I don't mind the thick rough around the fairways so much. It's the hay around the greens that is ridiculous. If they are going to have that and eliminate the ability use any type of spin at all, at the very least they need to slow the greens down to 10 or 11 on the stimpmeter to give guys half a chance to get up and down.
 
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#118
GAVol said:
I hate it when the USGA does this.
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I don't feel quite as strongly but will concede that cutting the greens a little higher and watering them down would not be an unreasonable concession. I am all for simply punishing a golfer for a poor shot or poor course management. Turning a regular playing surface into a hazard does seem a little over the top.

Sorry GA, you posted while I was starting my post.
 
#119
#119
I don't even necessarily think they have to put a bunch of water on the greens. Just don't shave them down to the roots. It's like putting down the windshield of a car and trying to stop a ball next to the hood ornament.
 
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#120
Lexvol said:
I don't feel quite as strongly but will concede that cutting the greens a little higher and watering them down would not be an unreasonable concession. I am all for simply punishing a golfer for a poor shot or poor course management. Turning a regular playing surface into a hazard does seem a little over the top.

Sorry GA, you posted while I was starting my post.
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I agree, but taking recovery out of the game altogether makes luck more of a factor and does a very poor job of testing the complete game of the players. Pinehurst has hosted the best Opens in my mind because it included the short games.
 
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#122
The typical problem I have with the short game is the common knowledge that golfers have begun to aim at sand traps in regular tour play. While I understand the argument, punishment for not hitting the green can be harsh in a tourney like this, but offer a reward for hitting the green.
 
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#123
Lexvol said:
The typical problem I have with the short game is the common knowledge that golfers have begun to aim at sand traps in regular tour play. While I understand the argument, punishment for not hitting the green can be harsh in a tourney like this, but offer a reward for hitting the green.
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I have no problem with the soft bunkers that are typical of US Opens, making up n downs from short sided bunkers nearly impossible. I'm fine with that. These difficult greens would absolutely test the short games of these guys, if there were any chance to play from it. However, everyone is relegated to lucky lie or bogey from the stuff, so a short game wizard like Tiger loses his advantage from the gunch.
 
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#125
Lexvol said:
We all agree that the greens are simply unreasonable and unfair.
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I'm fine with extremely difficult greens, because everyone is still putting them. I hate the idea of making all chipping and pitching luck. Kills me. Tiger's shot on 18 yesterday was phenomenal, but even he would admit that it was equal amounts luck and skill.
 
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